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« Reply #21645 on: July 27, 2014, 09:49:53 PM »

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« Reply #21646 on: July 27, 2014, 10:37:22 PM »

As much as I like Western liturgy, it sometimes seems disjointed to me. Maybe because it doesn't have so many litanies, aka "liturgical glue."

It's funny, I usually feel the opposite: Western liturgy, along with most of the non-Byzantine Eastern rites, seems to have a definite order, progression, and flow, while Byzantine liturgy usually seems to me like a bunch of loosely connected odds and ends thrown together.  Years of study and experience have tempered this somewhat, but I still feel this way for the most part, at least in terms of the average form of celebration. 
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« Reply #21647 on: July 27, 2014, 10:49:14 PM »

As much as I like Western liturgy, it sometimes seems disjointed to me. Maybe because it doesn't have so many litanies, aka "liturgical glue."

It's funny, I usually feel the opposite: Western liturgy, along with most of the non-Byzantine Eastern rites, seems to have a definite order, progression, and flow, while Byzantine liturgy usually seems to me like a bunch of loosely connected odds and ends thrown together.  Years of study and experience have tempered this somewhat, but I still feel this way for the most part, at least in terms of the average form of celebration. 
I definitely agree with this. Although I can't speak for Oriental rites, it would be a lot easier to teach an irreligious person the NO or Tridentine Mass than to teach him Byzantine Liturgy. Western liturgy is logical and more clearly structured. I was speaking from an aesthetic angle of a steady "flow", though I'm sure that viewpoint at least partially stems from familiarity.
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« Reply #21648 on: July 27, 2014, 10:57:06 PM »

As much as I like Western liturgy, it sometimes seems disjointed to me. Maybe because it doesn't have so many litanies, aka "liturgical glue."

It's funny, I usually feel the opposite: Western liturgy, along with most of the non-Byzantine Eastern rites, seems to have a definite order, progression, and flow, while Byzantine liturgy usually seems to me like a bunch of loosely connected odds and ends thrown together.  Years of study and experience have tempered this somewhat, but I still feel this way for the most part, at least in terms of the average form of celebration. 

That does seem true even in the little experience I have. As much as I've acquired a taste for the Byzantine Liturgy, all of those seemingly copy-pasted litanies still get me.
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« Reply #21649 on: July 27, 2014, 11:28:02 PM »

I've been away from Buffalo a month, and I miss it so much already
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« Reply #21650 on: July 28, 2014, 12:50:04 AM »

I miss my Priest. He's been away on the East Coast with his mother who has undergone an intensive surgery.
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« Reply #21651 on: July 28, 2014, 02:21:08 AM »

According to Fr. Aidan Roman rite used to have regular litanies too.
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« Reply #21652 on: July 28, 2014, 06:30:29 AM »

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« Reply #21653 on: July 28, 2014, 06:34:21 AM »

Good to "see" you again, Cyrillic!
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« Reply #21654 on: July 28, 2014, 06:41:32 AM »

Good to "see" you again, Cyrillic!

Thanks. I won't be posting as much, though. A strict diet, one could say. As a compensation I'll try to put more thought in the posts I do make.
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« Reply #21655 on: July 28, 2014, 06:44:33 AM »

Good to "see" you again, Cyrillic!

Thanks. I won't be posting as much, though. A strict diet, one could say. As a compensation I'll try to put more thought in the posts I do make.

I quite understand.  Wink Smiley The diet you're on is a healthy one.
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« Reply #21656 on: July 28, 2014, 08:37:46 AM »

Good to "see" you again, Cyrillic!

Thanks. I won't be posting as much, though. A strict diet, one could say. As a compensation I'll try to put more thought in the posts I do make.
I really should get on that diet as well.
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« Reply #21657 on: July 28, 2014, 09:55:49 AM »

I've been away from Buffalo a month, and I miss it so much already

Buffalo... what can be said of such a city?
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« Reply #21658 on: July 28, 2014, 12:34:50 PM »

Should it be called "Bison"? Buffalo is only the proper name for Asian water buffalo.
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« Reply #21659 on: July 28, 2014, 06:45:34 PM »

Should it be called "Bison"? Buffalo is only the proper name for Asian water buffalo.

Look man, all I know is that BILLS equals Boy I Love Losing Superbowls.
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« Reply #21660 on: July 29, 2014, 12:21:54 PM »

Bishops are called primates, and they all have a shared lineage, leading back to one original ancestor. Yet the administrative structure of the Church has changed over time. Descent with modification. Orthodoxy has been promoting evolution all along and not even realized it.
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« Reply #21661 on: July 29, 2014, 02:14:29 PM »

Bishops are called primates, and they all have a shared lineage, leading back to one original ancestor. Yet the administrative structure of the Church has changed over time. Descent with modification. Orthodoxy has been promoting evolution all along and not even realized it.

I would like to do a monogenetic analysis on that.
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« Reply #21662 on: July 30, 2014, 03:27:54 PM »

Just finished canning 23 quarts of dill pickles. I use "quarts" rather loosely. My jars are a collection of Imperial quarts, US quarts, and litres.
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« Reply #21663 on: Yesterday at 12:07:44 PM »

Why do girls like guys wearing suits? I've even seen one meme/pic that says a guy wearing a suit is for a girl what a girl wearing lingerie is for a guy.  Huh
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« Reply #21664 on: Yesterday at 12:09:51 PM »

Well if a meme said it, who can argue?
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« Reply #21665 on: Yesterday at 12:11:36 PM »

Well apparently some girls believe it, because they're reposting like one of those "Ha, isn't this SO true!" type things for other girls to respond to.  angel
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« Reply #21666 on: Yesterday at 04:03:01 PM »

I wonder if I have too many shoes. I finally got the rest of my shoes from the warehouse and I had forgot about two kinds of sneakers that I have. Wouldn't probably miss them if I lost them.
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« Reply #21667 on: Yesterday at 04:08:44 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.
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« Reply #21668 on: Yesterday at 04:31:21 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.

Nope. Not a chance. You'll need few more pairs if you want to dress anyhow nicely and comfortably.

Also, not gender-related issue. I had more shoes than my ex-girlfriend had.
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« Reply #21669 on: Yesterday at 04:42:45 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.

Nope. Not a chance. You'll need few more pairs if you want to dress anyhow nicely and comfortably.

Also, not gender-related issue. I had more shoes than my ex-girlfriend had.

What exactly do you need? Black oxfords, brown oxfords, patent formal shoes (tho most won't need those). White shoes are an option if you still opt into the spring sweater or summer seersucker crowd (almost nobody does). Now, if you have practical hobbies like boating, biking, gardening that's another matter from what I understand James to be addressing. Any more variety just marks a faddish man.
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« Reply #21670 on: Yesterday at 04:52:59 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.

Nope. Not a chance. You'll need few more pairs if you want to dress anyhow nicely and comfortably.

Also, not gender-related issue. I had more shoes than my ex-girlfriend had.

What exactly do you need? Black oxfords, brown oxfords, patent formal shoes (tho most won't need those). White shoes are an option if you still opt into the spring sweater or summer seersucker crowd (almost nobody does). Now, if you have practical hobbies like boating, biking, gardening that's another matter from what I understand James to be addressing. Any more variety just marks a faddish man.
Loafers are nice to have, as well as some sneakers you can beat up.
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« Reply #21671 on: Yesterday at 04:56:02 PM »

What exactly do you need? Black oxfords, brown oxfords, patent formal shoes (tho most won't need those).

Those brown Italian shoes can come in handy.

Porter, you pleasantly surprise me as a being a gentleman with style.
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« Reply #21672 on: Yesterday at 05:30:05 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.

Nope. Not a chance. You'll need few more pairs if you want to dress anyhow nicely and comfortably.

Also, not gender-related issue. I had more shoes than my ex-girlfriend had.

My footwear:

A pair of sandals for informal/comfort wear.
A pair of black dress shoes for church/formal occasions.
A pair of black tennis shoes for work.
A pair of regular tennis shoes for other occasions.

That's all I want or need.
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« Reply #21673 on: Yesterday at 05:35:28 PM »

It's fun being male where 3 pairs of shoes is more than enough to last me 2 years before needing new ones.

Nope. Not a chance. You'll need few more pairs if you want to dress anyhow nicely and comfortably.

Also, not gender-related issue. I had more shoes than my ex-girlfriend had.

Perhaps if you have a lot of hobbies or a job that requires different footwear, but for the average male I don't see much of a need. It's not like females who need several pairs of shoes to accommodate their constantly changing wardrobe.

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1 pair of formal dress shoes
2 pairs of Adidas sneakers for everyday use
1 pair of working shoes which is recycled from my old shoes when I buy new ones
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« Reply #21674 on: Yesterday at 07:26:47 PM »

What exactly do you need? Black oxfords, brown oxfords, patent formal shoes (tho most won't need those).

Those brown Italian shoes can come in handy.

Porter, you pleasantly surprise me as a being a gentleman with style.

My shoes come from Spain (hats and ties come from Italy; shirts and suits, bespoke). Actually, I shouldn't pretend this is me anymore.

Actually, a well-dressed woman doesn't need as many shoes as you'd think. Black pumps and cream pumps cover a lot of ground. Obviously those choosing to match their shoes to their gowns or accessories -- which is a good style choice -- would need more. But this idea of new heels for every outing isn't elegance but cheap fad.
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Is anyone else having issues with oc.net today? Pages don't seem to want to load, or load properly (I get the bare/ugly version), the site is slow, etc...?
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