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« Reply #5670 on: August 29, 2014, 01:11:15 PM »

They make vow to not own nothing.

I see such thing for first time.

Who said they owned anything?  Do you think they run around naked in the woods or something? 
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« Reply #5671 on: August 29, 2014, 02:03:41 PM »

That looks way too organized to be a proper Orthodox procession. Are you sure those aren't Maronites in disguise?

They're definitely Orthodox, though at least one of the Facebook comments noted (with surprise and pleasure) the coordination of the event(s).  Smiley

Why do Orthodox use a picture of the Theotokos that resembles Our Lady of Fatima?

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I believe Maria is referencing the image on the banners in their procession, which resembles Our Lady of Victory:



I was wondering the same thing.

Ah.  There are Copts among us so they can probably explain it better.  I presumed it was a fondness for Western style images, but then I saw some photographs of the Zeitoun apparitions in which our Lady appeared at times in more or less this "pose", so then I wondered if this image became popular for that reason.  These are just guesses, though.   

A little bit of both.  Ever since the French and British missions into Egypt, simple folks did adopt and enjoy Westernized icons (or as one contemporary visitor saw it, cheap or poorly made Western-style icons).

But the icon of the Theotokos by herself has exactly been popularized because of the miracle of the appearance of the Virgin in Zeitoun.  You can almost say this may be "Our Lady of Fatima" in one area of the globe, but in Egypt, it's "Our Lady of Zeitoun":



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« Reply #5672 on: August 29, 2014, 08:26:41 PM »

That looks way too organized to be a proper Orthodox procession. Are you sure those aren't Maronites in disguise?

They're definitely Orthodox, though at least one of the Facebook comments noted (with surprise and pleasure) the coordination of the event(s).  Smiley

Why do Orthodox use a picture of the Theotokos that resembles Our Lady of Fatima?

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I believe Maria is referencing the image on the banners in their procession, which resembles Our Lady of Victory:



I was wondering the same thing.

That is Our Lady of Grace.  

Our Lady of Victory


Our Lady of Fatima

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« Reply #5673 on: August 31, 2014, 07:34:05 AM »

Very accurate:
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« Reply #5674 on: August 31, 2014, 07:42:17 AM »

That looks way too organized to be a proper Orthodox procession. Are you sure those aren't Maronites in disguise?

They're definitely Orthodox, though at least one of the Facebook comments noted (with surprise and pleasure) the coordination of the event(s).  Smiley

Why do Orthodox use a picture of the Theotokos that resembles Our Lady of Fatima?

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I believe Maria is referencing the image on the banners in their procession, which resembles Our Lady of Victory:



I was wondering the same thing.

That is Our Lady of Grace. 

Our Lady of Victory


Our Lady of Fatima


That type of Catholic art creeps me out.
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« Reply #5675 on: August 31, 2014, 09:35:05 AM »

Engagement shoes. Because, why not? It's not like the guy is going to be able to have/use a backbone after the wedding anyway...  Tongue

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« Reply #5679 on: Yesterday at 08:00:16 PM »

A bumper sticker for your amusement:

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« Reply #5680 on: Yesterday at 08:34:51 PM »



What on earth?!
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« Reply #5681 on: Yesterday at 08:39:27 PM »

Probably somewhere like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_City,_Grand_Cayman
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« Reply #5682 on: Yesterday at 08:41:51 PM »


Ah, ok.  I am now educated.  Smiley Thanks!
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« Reply #5683 on: Yesterday at 08:42:57 PM »

A bumper sticker for your amusement:



**whispers**

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« Reply #5684 on: Yesterday at 08:44:20 PM »

Myself with (a real Coptic full) Deacon Boulos (Paul) after liturgy at the annual good shepherd retreat. I served in the Altar with him!:



I'm on the left. This is the choosing of the lamb (loaf of bread to be transformed to the Body of Christ)



NOTE: We're in a hotel ballroom, hence the lack of icons, iconostasis etc. All the Altar vestments and vessels are from my church!
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« Reply #5685 on: Yesterday at 08:46:18 PM »

^^ Beautiful. Smiley
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« Reply #5686 on: Yesterday at 08:52:43 PM »

Deacon Boulos and I go waaaaaay back.  His son and I grew up together  Smiley


Question:  was there any icon at all?
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« Reply #5687 on: Yesterday at 08:58:52 PM »

Deacon Boulos and I go waaaaaay back.  His son and I grew up together  Smiley
Awesome.  Simply amazing.

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Uhh.. If you look behind the altar there's a banner of Jesus and some sheep. Our old tabernacle(the one used for this liturgy) has legit icons of Christ,  the Theotokos, St Pachomius,  and I forget who's on the fourth side. Is that sufficient?
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« Reply #5688 on: Yesterday at 09:00:21 PM »

Deacon Boulos and I go waaaaaay back.  His son and I grew up together  Smiley
Awesome.  Simply amazing.

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Uhh.. If you look behind the altar there's a banner of Jesus and some sheep. Our old tabernacle(the one used for this liturgy) has legit icons of Christ,  the Theotokos, St Pachomius,  and I forget who's on the fourth side. Is that sufficient?

Oh no, nothing against what you guys did.  I'm only curious.  I want to know if theoretically, we Copts can pray a liturgy without icons.
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« Reply #5689 on: Yesterday at 09:15:27 PM »

I count 8 holy icons. Grin   angel

(just to prevent confusion, I added the icon spoken about above)
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« Reply #5690 on: Yesterday at 09:26:13 PM »

I count 8 holy icons. Grin   angel

(just to prevent confusion, I added the icon spoken about above)

+1  Smiley
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« Reply #5691 on: Yesterday at 09:27:43 PM »

I count 8 holy icons. Grin   angel

(just to prevent confusion, I added the icon spoken about above)

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Uhh.. If you look behind the altar there's a banner of Jesus and some sheep. Our old tabernacle(the one used for this liturgy) has legit icons of Christ,  the Theotokos, St Pachomius,  and I forget who's on the fourth side. Is that sufficient?

Oh no, nothing against what you guys did.  I'm only curious.  I want to know if theoretically, we Copts can pray a liturgy without icons.

If we look at St Paul referencing the cloud of witnesses, I think we know that the cloud surrounds even without depiction. So if a church  is limited in resources,  it can function without icons, but a church that has the resources to have icons, must.
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« Reply #5692 on: Yesterday at 09:33:33 PM »

Check this thread out.

If you have any definitive answers about this, I would love to hear the Coptic view.  I think I was told it's not necessary if you don't have it, but if you do, great.  Contrast it to the EO practice where it's necessary, and no liturgy starts without at least two specific icons.
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