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The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« on: December 16, 2008, 06:19:02 AM »
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“The great sin is fear of the other. In a state of fear, everyone seems to be a threat. There are many symptoms of fear among Christians. The real meaning of the English word ‘gospel’ is good news, but one can find those who are more attracted to the Bad News Gospel. You can find religious circles more interested in the anti-Christ than in Christ, more interested in the number 666 than the Holy Trinity. This is a fear-driven, bad news orientation. Where such a mentality thrives, the Christian contribution to society is meager. Where faith, hope and love flourish, transformation occurs. Faith changes life. If life doesn’t change, clearly there is no faith. St. John Chrysostom, preaching to perhaps 400 people in Antioch, told them, ‘If all of you were Christians, there would be no more pagans in the world.’ If you want to understand how Christianity spread so rapidly in the early centuries, it was because Christians were Christian.

“Sadly, in our time, we have lost the idea of the holy. Pagans at least understood the holy. They had a sense of the sacred. We have lost this capacity. This is our tragedy because more than ever the world needs the light of Christ, the genuine light.”


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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 12:19:55 PM »
^ Three words not mentioned directly in the article you quoted....

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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 12:39:53 PM »
Wow. Pretty powerful stuff. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 12:54:11 PM »
It's interesting that you bring this up; I was just recently thinking about the theory our OT professor brought up in class once, postulating that fear was the underlying motivator behind Eve's disobedience - God had planted a seed of uncertainty in her mind when He asked them to guard the garden, and the serpent played on that by offering them omniscience and omnipotence through the Apple.
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 01:22:00 PM »
Very interesting article, Myrrh23, thanks! 
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. -- Douglas Adams

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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 04:25:52 PM »
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 05:33:09 PM »
It's interesting that you bring this up; I was just recently thinking about the theory our OT professor brought up in class once, postulating that fear was the underlying motivator behind Eve's disobedience - God had planted a seed of uncertainty in her mind when He asked them to guard the garden, and the serpent played on that by offering them omniscience and omnipotence through the Apple.

it's a little more detailed than that...i'll PM you about it. 

The fear was only part of it.  Another part was insecurity, not understanding, pride, greed (wanting more), etc. Pride was a considerable factor that perhaps came OUT OF the fear, even though fear may have been a primary instigator in the theory you are talking about.   ;) ;D
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 07:59:59 PM »
Thank you, I really enjoyed this article.  I particularly liked this quote:

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A problem we face is the cult of individualism. The Church doesn’t exist to make individuals but persons. An individual is someone in a state of separation, someone out of communion. A person is unique but at the same time exists in relationship with others. You cannot divide him from the whole. A person is a being who can never be repeated yet whose being includes others – without the other, the person does not exist. Without communion there is no being.
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 08:46:21 AM »
it's a little more detailed than that...i'll PM you about it. 

The fear was only part of it.  Another part was insecurity, not understanding, pride, greed (wanting more), etc. Pride was a considerable factor that perhaps came OUT OF the fear, even though fear may have been a primary instigator in the theory you are talking about.   ;) ;D

I didn't want to bore people with the details.  Needless to say, it's a theory of Pentiuc's that isn't supported by much Patristic consensus, but is plausible on it's face.  In our class in particular, he was focusing more on Fear > Insecurity > Desire to minimize the unknown > Knowledge minimizes the unknown > Desire for God's knowledge, so there is no unknown.
"O Cross of Christ, all-holy, thrice-blessed, and life-giving, instrument of the mystical rites of Zion, the holy Altar for the service of our Great Archpriest, the blessing - the weapon - the strength of priests, our pride, our consolation, the light in our hearts, our mind, and our steps"
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Re: The Great Sin is the Fear of the Other
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 02:00:42 PM »
it's a little more detailed than that...i'll PM you about it. 

The fear was only part of it.  Another part was insecurity, not understanding, pride, greed (wanting more), etc. Pride was a considerable factor that perhaps came OUT OF the fear, even though fear may have been a primary instigator in the theory you are talking about.   ;) ;D

I didn't want to bore people with the details.  Needless to say, it's a theory of Pentiuc's that isn't supported by much Patristic consensus, but is plausible on it's face.  In our class in particular, he was focusing more on Fear > Insecurity > Desire to minimize the unknown > Knowledge minimizes the unknown > Desire for God's knowledge, so there is no unknown.

Sounds about right.  It's gona take me a while to get back to this, cuz I gota pull from different sources, but i'll try to come up with a synthesis for you...
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