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« on: November 28, 2008, 06:26:14 PM »

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There are three scenarios that could lead to the restoration of an Orthodox Patriarchate of Rome:

1. The Mass Conversion
A conversion on the part of a Roman Pope and the majority of his curia and his cardinals to Orthodoxy, that would cause the Orthodox Patriarchates to recognize him as primus inter pares and respect the Western character of the Roman Church in the West, if certain conditions are met (the integration of Eastern Catholics with Orthodox jurisdictions).

2. The Restoration of a Roman Patriarchate
A Pan-Orthodox Synod condemns Roman Catholicism as heretical and agrees to restore the ancient Roman Patriarchate in Orthodoxy. The Pope elected would lead the Orthodox community in Italy and will attract Orthodox communities from the West. The new Orthodox Pope would become the rival of the Roman Catholic one and might receive Traditional Latin Catholics into his Patriarchate.

3. The Restoration of Communion
After years of religious dialogue, major agreement is reached on most issues. The Orthodox Church would recognize the primacy of the pope while he would rennounce his infalibilty. Eastern Catholic Churches would rejoin their Orthodox counterparts while full communion would exist between Catholics and Orthodox.

Which of the three different scenarios appear more posible according to the different opinions?

I know that when the Alexandrian and Antiochian Patriarchates fell into heresy, Orthodox Patriarchs were elected. Then, was it "technically" possible for Orthodoxy to elect a Patriarch for Rome?


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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 06:50:58 PM »

I know that when the Alexandrian and Antiochian Patriarchates fell into heresy, Orthodox Patriarchs were elected.
I think that's a different scenario all together. In both cases there was a dispute and division among the members of the Patriarchates which led, sadly to schism.Appointing an Patriarch in Communion with Constantinople was done to serve those who wished to remain in Communion with Constantinople. This is not the same case here. Although there are schisms and potential schisms among the Roman Catholics, none of the groups are in schism particularly to be n Communion with Orthodoxy, so in my view, it would be terribly wrong to appoint an Orthodox Patriarch of Rome.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2008, 06:57:54 PM »

#2 might have worked 900 years ago (Before the Crusaders sacked Constantinople)

There is already an Orthodox Metropolitan for Italy under the EP, based in Venice.

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