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« on: November 21, 2008, 02:56:35 PM »

I was just curious about how long (this is to all non-Chalcedonians) your Liturgy goes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 03:44:14 PM »

I was just curious about how long (this is to all non-Chalcedonians) your Liturgy goes.
First, are you certain the Liturgy of St. James is merely an OO liturgy?  IIRC, even some EO churches celebrate this liturgy for particular days of the year.

Second, do OO even celebrate the Liturgy of St. James?
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 05:40:42 PM »

Second, do OO even celebrate the Liturgy of St. James?
I am under the impression that they do. Well regardless, I would just like to know about how similar/different their liturgy is.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 05:53:42 PM »

Second, do OO even celebrate the Liturgy of St. James?

Check out the other threads related to this one, using the tag below.  There are definitely OO Churches that use the Liturgy of St. James.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 05:58:35 PM »

Second, do OO even celebrate the Liturgy of St. James?

Check out the other threads related to this one, using the tag below.  There are definitely OO Churches that use the Liturgy of St. James.
Cool! Cool  I kinda thought this might be the case.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 08:55:08 PM »

I was just curious about how long (this is to all non-Chalcedonians) your Liturgy goes.

With regard to how long our liturgies last, it depends on the Church. 

I've been told the Armenian Church uses a version of the St. Chrysostom liturgy, with some of St. Basil's mixed in.  There are also some other influences, including some things borrowed from the Catholics during the Crusades.  Typically, Armenian liturgies will go for two, or two and a half hours.

I think the Coptic liturgy is from St. Basil.  The Coptic liturgies I've been to will last anywhere from two to three hours.  They also have another rather short liturgy that was recorded by St. Cyril, but attributed to St. Mark.  That one is not used so much.  I've only been to one such liturgy.

The Syriac Orthodox Church uses St. James.  It has been a long time since I have been to a Syriac Church, but I seem to recall the liturgy being at least a couple of hours long.

I don't know who the Ethiopians attribute their liturgy to.  I know their traditions regarding chant, though, come from St. Yared.  Their liturgies usually go for four to five hours.  At least that is my experience here in Los Angeles.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 01:08:48 AM »

The British Orthodox Church under the Coptic Church uses a liturgy they call the Liturgy of St. James.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 05:09:56 PM »

With regard to how long our liturgies last, it depends on the Church. 
Okay thanks. Interesting. I know that is the same for the EO Church. Sometimes they can go very long, and other times they don't. It really just depends, I know that the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom can go as long four hours, but it depends on jurisdiction, diocese, parish like everything. Mine goes about two hours.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 01:29:48 AM »

In our church (Coptic) we use three diferent liturgies; mostly St Basil's - about 3 - 3 1/4 hours, then during lent St Cyril's - which is the Coptic translation of St Mark's which is about 3 1/2 to 3 3/4 hours ; and then very rarely St Gregory's, but I don't remember how long that lasts . . . I thinks it's even longer. 
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