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Offline Quinault

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Advent
« on: November 14, 2008, 05:20:32 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy. What do you call that 40 day period then? I need to call it something for my kids, what would you suggest?

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Re: Advent
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 05:28:36 PM »
"The Nativity Fast" is commonly used.  I would call it Advent though if you want.  Those who object seem to be more of the ideologue type that object to any connotation associated with "the West".

Also, see the following thread:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,4558.0.html
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Re: Advent
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 05:30:15 PM »
Nativity Fast?

I don't see why Advent wouldn't be a good term, it just means 'coming' in Latin.  But I know some people who doesn't like the words Christmas or Easter either, so to each his own.   :laugh:
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Re: Advent
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 05:33:07 PM »
I've seen, heard, and used 'Advent' quite a bit.

However, I have also seen, heard, and used the phrases "Nativity Fast" or "St Philip's Fast".
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Re: Advent
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 07:19:38 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.
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Re: Advent
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 07:22:19 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.

It's in the Latin language haha...
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Re: Advent
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 07:27:42 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.

It's in the Latin language haha...
Yes. Latin is the devil's language. ::)
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Re: Advent
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 07:31:25 PM »
I always loved the lighting of the advent candles as in the Anglican Church. Thought it was a beautiful tradition, albeit not an EO one. Another tradition my mother used to read to us as children about was St. Lucia's Day-a scandinavian tradition. As a romantic young girl, this custom had tremendous appeal to me!

P.S. My apologies! I thought I was on the thread discussing advent wreaths and candles, but I see I was mistaken! :-[
« Last Edit: November 14, 2008, 07:38:40 PM by Rosehip »
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Re: Advent
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 07:39:35 PM »
I've heard both "Advent" and "Winter Lent" used.
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Re: Advent
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 07:42:16 PM »
St. Lucia's Day-a scandinavian tradition.

Interestingly St. Lucia is the only saint that is celebrated with a special day in Lutheran Scandinavia. Not even Virgin Mary has a day that is being celebrated. But I'm going wildly off topic. Please ignore.

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Re: Advent
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 07:48:59 PM »
I've heard both "Advent" and "Winter Lent" used.
I've also heard occasionally "Little Lent."
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Re: Advent
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 07:51:31 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.

It's in the Latin language haha...
Yes. Latin is the devil's language. ::)

To alot of converts and people who see us as too close to the West these days, yes it is. I don't agree, but that's the reality.
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Re: Advent
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2008, 07:51:45 PM »
St. Lucia's Day-a scandinavian tradition.

Interestingly St. Lucia is the only saint that is celebrated with a special day in Lutheran Scandinavia. Not even Virgin Mary has a day that is being celebrated. But I'm going wildly off topic. Please ignore.

Well, I was the one who started this tangent, because I was not paying attention-the blame is all mine. I didn't know that about St. Lucia, Robert. Very interesting! I still think it's such a beautiful tradition...

Back on topic-we call it the "Nativity Fast" here usually too. But  I've heard the Russians calling it  "St. Philip's Lent" as well.
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Re: Advent
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2008, 09:39:57 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.

It's in the Latin language haha...
Yes. Latin is the devil's language. ::)

I thought Basque was awarded with that distinction.
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Re: Advent
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2008, 10:03:05 PM »
I have been told that advent is not a good term to use within orthoodoxy.
Why not? Immanuel is coming.

It's in the Latin language haha...
Yes. Latin is the devil's language. ::)

I thought Basque was awarded with that distinction.
LOL! :laugh:
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Re: Advent
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2008, 11:43:16 AM »
Nativity Fast?

I don't see why Advent wouldn't be a good term, it just means 'coming' in Latin.  But I know some people who doesn't like the words Christmas or Easter either, so to each his own.   :laugh:

Nativity is Latin too, so I don't see how that cancels out.

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Re: Advent
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2008, 12:03:10 PM »
Nativity Fast?

I don't see why Advent wouldn't be a good term, it just means 'coming' in Latin.  But I know some people who doesn't like the words Christmas or Easter either, so to each his own.   :laugh:

Nativity is Latin too, so I don't see how that cancels out.

That is true, I completely forgot about nativus.
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