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Offline Kefx

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Filioque Clause
« on: August 30, 2003, 12:00:44 AM »
In 1995 the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity released a document at the request of the Pope entitled: "The Father as the Source of the Whole Trinity - The Procession of the Holy Spirit in Greek and Latin Traditions"

Below are a couple of links to it.  Petersnet isn't working for me otherwise I wouldn't being using a geocities site as source for this.

From the the document:
The Catholic Church acknowledges the conciliar, ecumenical, normative, and irrevocable value, as expression of the one common faith of the Church and of all Christians, of the Symbol professed in Greek at Constantinople in 381 by the Second Ecumenical Council. No profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition can contradict this expression of the faith taught by the undivided Church.

It gives an explanation of how the Catholic understanding of the Trinity (with filioque) harmonizes with the Orthodox understanding the Trinity (without filioque).

A few questions:

1. Is the explanation of Orthodox theology in the matter correct (granting the document isn't that long)?  

2. Does the explanation for the proper context in which the filioque must be understood go towards solving the problem?

3. Are there other issues involved with the filioque clause?


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Re:Filioque Clause
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2003, 01:13:48 AM »
The document seems to ignore the teachings of the Synod of Blachernae (1285) on the filioque.  I don't have time to go into it now, but you could check Crisis in Byzantium: the Filioque Controversy in the Patriarchate of Gregory II of Cyprus by Aristedeis Papadakis for full coverage.

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Re:Filioque Clause
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2003, 05:58:19 AM »
Don't forget that there are two issues involved with the filioque clause:

1. That it was added to the creed without the concensus and agreement of an ecumenical council.

2. That it is in error or has the potential to lead to error (the wording of the creed was very carefully chosen so that it could NOT be misinterpreted).

Those articles only deal with the latter issue which is considered the more minor of the two in Orthodoxy.

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