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Why don't you post much?  You can clarify your answers in the thread if you wish.

I only really want to lurk (i.e. read but not post).
6 (6.3%)
I haven't found a topic that interests me enough to post
6 (6.3%)
I don't feel that I have much to contribute
42 (44.2%)
The debate gets too "heated" for me to want to post
12 (12.6%)
I don't feel welcome enough to post
11 (11.6%)
I'm new here and haven't had the chance to yet
2 (2.1%)
It's too confusing
3 (3.2%)
Other (please clarify)
13 (13.7%)

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For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« on: October 17, 2008, 05:46:06 PM »
This is just a poll for those who are OC.net members but who don't post much - I'm a stats junkie, so I wanted to see a breakdown of reasons for why we have over 2000 users with fewer than 25 posts, and another nearly 250 who have between 25 and 100 posts.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 08:15:05 PM »
This is just a poll for those who are OC.net members but who don't post much - I'm a stats junkie, so I wanted to see a breakdown of reasons for why we have over 2000 users with fewer than 25 posts, and another nearly 250 who have between 25 and 100 posts.

I do not post too much because I only grab snatches of time here and there for this pleasure.  I am sure many people feel the same pressure of time.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 10:02:20 PM »
as above (especially now that I am working 40+ hours per week and have 2 kids under 4). Plus, I generally don't have a clue what I am talking about.

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 10:43:38 PM »
Plus, I generally don't have a clue what I am talking about.

That doesn't stop me.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »
This is just a poll for those who are OC.net members but who don't post much -

I chose "Don't feel I have much to contribute" because many of the thread topics are very involved and I don't know enough to make an informed post. 

Time is also a contributing factor.  Work, school, family, house, church and book take up a lot of time.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 11:41:31 PM »
I chose that I don't have much to contribute... I agree with kmm:
I generally don't have a clue what I am talking about.
Plus, I feel like there are only a few people around my age group that post (I'll be 19 next week). I generally find that most people on here are a bit older, which definitely gives them more wisdom and experience. But I really like to 'lurk' lol.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 11:52:05 PM »
Because I'm an obnoxious person who feels that I'm bestowing my All-Knowing Nothiness to a thread that gets heated or not reply at all at the ones that respond to me. Partially its me putting my foot in my mouth and part not actually staying on topic.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2008, 11:15:56 AM »
I only read posts of others because my knowledge in comparison with older and wiser Posters is to little. I just enjoy the opportunity to learn something.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 12:14:29 PM »
I chose that I feel like I don't have much to contribute.  All of the questions I have seem to have already been asked!   ;D  So I spend most of the time reading and learning.


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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 12:51:45 PM »
This is just a poll for those who are OC.net members but who don't post much - I'm a stats junkie, so I wanted to see a breakdown of reasons for why we have over 2000 users with fewer than 25 posts, and another nearly 250 who have between 25 and 100 posts.

I am not a stats junkie (there are worse addictions  ;) ), but if your interest is in those "who don't post much," shouldn't you classify by posts-per-day ratio rather than total post count?

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 12:55:07 PM »
I am not a stats junkie (there are worse addictions  ;) ), but if your interest is in those "who don't post much," shouldn't you classify by posts-per-day ratio rather than total post count?

While you're correct in principle, my question was an exercise in academic honesty: my interest had been peaked by the observation that we have (and this number has been fairly consistent) over 2,000 users with fewer than 25 posts - that's why I used total posts as the criterion in the OP.  However, considering that a usual month will have around 50 new users, it stands to reason that most of the 2,000+ users have a posting rate well below .25 per day, which would be a pretty good definition for "doesn't post much."  In addition, over half of those 2,000+ users have 0 posts, which does bring the average down considerably, but they are the most interesting cases, and thus a major reason for the query.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 02:29:57 PM »
I am not a stats junkie (there are worse addictions  ;) ), but if your interest is in those "who don't post much," shouldn't you classify by posts-per-day ratio rather than total post count?

While you're correct in principle, my question was an exercise in academic honesty: my interest had been peaked by the observation that we have (and this number has been fairly consistent) over 2,000 users with fewer than 25 posts - that's why I used total posts as the criterion in the OP.  However, considering that a usual month will have around 50 new users, it stands to reason that most of the 2,000+ users have a posting rate well below .25 per day, which would be a pretty good definition for "doesn't post much."  In addition, over half of those 2,000+ users have 0 posts, which does bring the average down considerably, but they are the most interesting cases, and thus a major reason for the query.

I see.  Well, with a post average of 0.165 per day (as I write this), I will vote "Other" and explain that I can usually find an answer to my questions through searching, so there is little reason to post more frequently than I do.  In addition, I have to log in in order to use the search engine, so maybe that is one reason why there are so many members with so few posts.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 02:45:37 PM »
"I don't feel that I have much to contribute"  Is what I chose... I do post when I find something that I want to say, but I generally prefer to just read. I don't like to get into debates so I try to also watch how I say things so I don't end up debating with people as well. Even though I've been Orthodox for bout 6 yrs I'm still learning so I don't really know that much yet and feel there's other more knowledgable people here who can answer the questions better than I could.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 03:10:28 PM »
I have a higher post count that you asked for in the question but I still responded since my posts were mostly quite some time back. I visit the site regularly to read but don't post often because I don't feel like I have much to contribute. I find many topics interesting, but then sometimes they will go off into quoting the fathers and councils and I don't have the background to participate.

There is also the fact that I ended up not joining the Orthodox Church but instead joining the Catholic Church. I'm not sure I would have much to offer for the board anyway since I don't wish to come across as negative toward Orthodoxy in any way. Quite the opposite is true. I love the Orthodox Church and maybe someday I will find my home in it.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 03:19:43 PM »
In addition, I have to log in in order to use the search engine, so maybe that is one reason why there are so many members with so few posts.

Interesting point - I hadn't even thought of that!

There is also the fact that I ended up not joining the Orthodox Church but instead joining the Catholic Church. I'm not sure I would have much to offer for the board anyway since I don't wish to come across as negative toward Orthodoxy in any way. Quite the opposite is true. I love the Orthodox Church and maybe someday I will find my home in it. 

Well, I would hope that no one would take it as "coming across negatively toward Orthodoxy."  We do have quite a few RC users who are quite active - and most do not have a negative opinion of Orthodoxy, so you're in good company.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2008, 05:57:02 PM »
I'm in the same boat as pretty much everyone else here. I come on several times a day to read and more often than not every question is see is answered in every way I could think of to answer it.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 01:39:15 PM »
I'm giving this a small bump, so those who haven't seen it and want to respond can do so.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 02:16:14 PM »
I often feel like a novice, even though I've been Orthodox all my life.  The discussions and depth of knowledge on this forum is amazing.  I love to just READ and LEARN!  This board is a fount of knowledge.

However, I feel inept to enter in to discussions, because I don't have the depth of knowledge others seem to possess.  So, I often prefer to sit back and learn from those who know way more than me.

I've actually grown to love my Faith even more because of this site.  It is a comfort to realize there are so many Orthodox faithful in the world.  Growing up, my sister and I were the only "Orthodox" kids in our public school.

However, it's comforting to know there are MANY of us out there...and even when we have heated discussions, it's only because of our LOVE of Orthodoxy and our sincere desire to keep it pure.

I thank the moderators, boardmembers, members, onlookers, etc. who have shared their knowledge and have made a difference!
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 03:49:27 PM »
Serb1389's discussion on "For those who post a lot..." has been split off into its own thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,17956.0.html
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 04:12:46 PM »
I'm in the same boat as pretty much everyone else here. I come on several times a day to read and more often than not every question is see is answered in every way I could think of to answer it.
That's how I feel. It seems like everyone else knows way more than I do, so why post when everything I could say has already been said better than I could say it? ;) However, because of that, I learn a lot by lurking.

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 05:34:04 PM »
Much of the time I feel enormously selfish here, because I have more questions than answers! But the discussions and the answers have all been extremely useful in helping me to sort through many issues and have also been a mirror in which I see my own sinfulness. Sometimes it stings to be rebuked or misunderstood, but this is also good for the soul, and for the acquisition of humility. I very much appreciate this forum and all the brothers and sisters I've come to know and love. Thank you all!
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2008, 07:42:26 PM »
I'm here more as a learner than a teacher.  I'm still a catechumen, after all.  :)  I don't have a lot of time to spend here, so I don't say much.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 02:24:38 PM »
I choose other (btw, I just found this thread today).

Generally speaking, I don't feel that I have anything major to add because I am not an Orthodox Christian. I read through the board probably twice a day or so. Orthodoxy has a lot of differences than Eastern Catholicism (I'm a Melkite Catholic) and I don't know that much about it.

I like this forum, but I don't see too many new, exciting posts here. While there are some heated posts, I see the forum as a little more low key than other forum. That's also why I like this forum.

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 03:12:20 PM »
I usually only post if it's a topic I either have an interest in or feel I have something to contribute. When I was first inquiring into Orthodoxy I found a lot of great stuff here and regulary chatted with several folks via PMs and IMs.
Lately I've felt a couple of folks here make me feel unwelcome, probably due to me expressing a negative opinion about a certain dead Albanian nun.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2008, 11:37:46 PM »
probably due to me expressing a negative opinion about a certain dead Albanian nun.
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2008, 11:57:05 PM »
Lately I've felt a couple of folks here make me feel unwelcome,

You and me both. However, someone on here told me not to take too much stock in internet forums. Right now, I'm trying to build up my real world life, especially since I'm going back to college. :) People will be people, and some of them will hold on to your wrongdoings and those opinions and antics that happen to anger and annoy them. If some are ignoring you and won't tell you why, Crucifer, dust it off and keep writing. There are some of us on here trying to be more welcoming, gentle, and will try to teach you. If I've ever come across unwelcoming to you, I'm sorry. :)
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 03:11:37 PM »
I chose "I don't feel that I have much to contribute" for several reasons that have been mostly already stated:

1) I'm a bit of a perfectionist and by the time I have a good reply with the right answer, grammar, and spelling - there has already been a reply

2) Because I'm a perfectionist, I take a long time to reply and with work I sometimes decide its not worth the effort. 

3) There are smarter people than me on this forum..

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 05:39:36 PM »
hmmmm, I chose other, because at times I do think things get a little heated.... But I also feel like I don't really have much to contribute, except questions. 
I'm not much of an internet person, but I think that this is a good site to support.  It can also be interesting to lurk and just see what other people have to say, as I am pretty fascinated by some of the characters on this forum ;)
Another reason I don't post much is when I do, my posts tend to either go unnoticed or the thread stops (perhaps it's because I'm a seamstress :laugh:)  (and make cheesy jokes... ::))
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 06:02:33 PM »
hmmmm, I chose other, because at times I do think things get a little heated.... But I also feel like I don't really have much to contribute, except questions. 
I'm not much of an internet person, but I think that this is a good site to support.  It can also be interesting to lurk and just see what other people have to say, as I am pretty fascinated by some of the characters on this forum ;)
Another reason I don't post much is when I do, my posts tend to either go unnoticed or the thread stops (perhaps it's because I'm a seamstress :laugh:)  (and make cheesy jokes... ::))
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 06:04:00 PM »
I found that I was encountering mainly recent converts interested in ramping up on their knowledge of Orthodoxy, and non-Orthodox engaged in comparisons. It became a "been there, done that" sort of thing, so I found it more useful to engage people at church where I can see their faces, etc. Less chance of misunderstandings.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2008, 08:44:48 PM »
One -  I generally find church politics spiritually unedifying. Nonetheless, I do like this board for the other issues discussed.

Two - I'm also not good at debate, especially when it gets heated.

Three - I go through posting spells on this and other forums I belong too.

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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2008, 11:16:00 PM »
I chose "The debate gets too "heated" for me to want to post" since that represents the majority of my experience. I don't seem interested in the same-old arguments anymore. I can swear I feel my eyes glazing over...

Other times, it's just about time. I really like school, so it takes up a lot of my time. In fact, if you ever see me on here, I could/should be studying some body parts or something.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2008, 05:23:31 AM »
I signed up for this forum because I wanted to talk about ordinary stuff with ordinary Christians.
Instead I found a bunch of nutcases that uses the Church fathers as baseball bats in their arguments. ::)

 ;D I do exaggerate in the above statement, hopefully everyone has the good humour to not get insulted ;D.

But seriously where are the simple discussions about everyday christian life? The discussions about hobbies and interests?
Does every topic have to be about this or that dogma of the Church?

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2008, 10:19:49 AM »
I signed up for this forum because I wanted to talk about ordinary stuff with ordinary Christians.
Instead I found a bunch of nutcases that uses the Church fathers as baseball bats in their arguments. ::)

 ;D I do exaggerate in the above statement, hopefully everyone has the good humour to not get insulted ;D.

But seriously where are the simple discussions about everyday christian life? The discussions about hobbies and interests?
Does every topic have to be about this or that dogma of the Church?

You pose very good questions!  We can and do have discussions about hobbies, sports, and random things.  If you'd like, feel free to start more in "The Other Board," (which is our area designated for non-debate kind of things, like casual conversation and the like).

For anyone else who "lurks" or doesn't post much - just because we don't have a discussion on a particular topic, doesn't mean we can't have that discussion.  You can indeed be the catalyst, starting a thread about this topic or that.  If you need help choosing a title, finding a board, or with the logistics of starting a thread, feel free to PM one of the Moderators, Global Moderators, Administrators - or any of the other long-time members of this forum.
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2008, 10:49:13 AM »
I would have picked "all" of "most" of the above had it been an option...lol!

Instead I picked that I simply don't have much to contribute. My second choice (and it was a CLOSE second) would have been things can get too heated for me, followed by "don't feel welcome". (sorry you asked...lol!) Much of the second 2 have more to do with me, and bad experiences on message boards in the past. (certainly I contributed to those situations, and at times have been my fault) But I try to learn from my mistakes, though i dont always, and simply stay away from topics that can lead to debates, which is pretty much every topic I'm interested in...lol! :)

For the remaining topics I just don't have much to add...ocassionally I'll throw in my 2 cents, but rarely feel I can contribute anything other than my own experience, which is not always helpful to said topic. So mainly I just lurk and read the archives.

Anyways, that's why I'm a lurker mostly....:)



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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2008, 12:12:46 PM »
... feel free to start more in "The Other Board,"...

 ;D You are right! I have no one to blame but myself for not starting threads.

Unfortunately I am into all the nerdiest things you can imagine, but I will post when I have a topic that might be of interest to anyone here.

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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2008, 04:18:00 PM »
... feel free to start more in "The Other Board,"...

Unfortunately I am into all the nerdiest things you can imagine, but I will post when I have a topic that might be of interest to anyone here.

Is that a challenge? Reads as a great topic - nerdy avocations.  :D I'll "come clean" if you start a topic.
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Unfortunately I am into all the nerdiest things you can imagine,

Hey, you're on a board where theology is discussed, you're right at home among fellow nerds, geeks, etc.!
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Unfortunately I am into all the nerdiest things you can imagine,

Hey, you're on a board where theology is discussed, you're right at home among fellow nerds, geeks, etc.!
Well, most of us are Orthodox, and you have to be kinduva geek to enjoy posting on web forums.  Therefore, I think that makes us Geek Orthodox. ;D
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2008, 09:32:03 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2008, 10:34:13 PM »
Are you Geek Orthodox?

If you have searched the Web for the rules for calculating the date of Pascha, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you have written a Perl script which calculates the date of Pascha, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have noted the major fast/feast days in your Palm Pilot, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you have downloaded the entire Trebnik into your Palm, and made the .CSV file available to other priests via anonymous FTP, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have the telephone numbers of your priest and parish in your cell phone’s memory, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If your priest has ever sent a text message to your pager via e-mail, then you are both Geek Orthodox.

If you read an Orthodox Discussion List from your laptop, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If the laptop runs Linux, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you're using AOL with a Microsoft operating system, you're probably not Geek Orthodox (yet). If you have used the Web to find a parish when travelling, then you might be Geek Orthodox. If you maintain a Web site for your parish or jurisdiction, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have met a priest through an Orthodox Discussion List, and later visited his parish, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you have met a priest through a List, and later sought spiritual counseling from him via e-mail, then you are Geek Orthodox. If he answered you, and began a long correspondence, then you’re both Geek Orthodox.

If you can recall more user ids than names of List subscribers, then you might be Geek Orthodox. If you have ever prayed for a subscriber by user id instead of name, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have ever started an argument on the List, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you have ever tried to settle an argument in your parish by distributing printouts from the List, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have ever gotten carried away with an argument on the List, and kept on pursuing it long after everyone else is tired of it, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you have set up your Mail User Agent to permanently kill-file a particular subscriber of the aforementioned type, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have ever mistaken the List for the Church, then you might be Geek Orthodox. If you have ever reminded someone else that the List is not the Church, then you are Geek Orthodox.

If you have ever thought that the List might dissuade more people from Orthodoxy than it attracts, then you might be Geek Orthodox.

If you became Orthodox even after subscribing to the List for several years, then you are Geek Orthodox.


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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2008, 10:41:20 PM »
I signed up for this forum because I wanted to talk about ordinary stuff with ordinary Christians.
Instead I found a bunch of nutcases that uses the Church fathers as baseball bats in their arguments. ::)

 ;D I do exaggerate in the above statement, hopefully everyone has the good humour to not get insulted ;D.

But seriously where are the simple discussions about everyday christian life? The discussions about hobbies and interests?
Does every topic have to be about this or that dogma of the Church?

I should probably pick a little bit of all of the above, but this comment struck a chord.  I'm finding this forum to be the place to go if you want something to complain about.  It never ceases to amaze me that even the most innocuous post will  attract at least one person who MUST find something to complain about.  Its rather disheartening. 


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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2008, 10:54:37 PM »
I should probably pick a little bit of all of the above, but this comment struck a chord.  I'm finding this forum to be the place to go if you want something to complain about.  It never ceases to amaze me that even the most innocuous post will  attract at least one person who MUST find something to complain about.  Its rather disheartening. 

It is rather unfortunate.  I still think we need to have users start threads on simpler subjects, or on subjects of Christian life - and then you'll see more of the users who want nothing to do with Politics or theological debate participate and feel more comfortable.
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2008, 11:07:16 PM »
Geek Orthodox--That's me!  :D

Are you uber Geek Orthodox if you've been on online forums since modems were 300 baud?


and 'forums' were BBS's  :-[
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2008, 11:01:00 PM »
I should probably pick a little bit of all of the above, but this comment struck a chord.  I'm finding this forum to be the place to go if you want something to complain about.  It never ceases to amaze me that even the most innocuous post will  attract at least one person who MUST find something to complain about.  Its rather disheartening. 

It is rather unfortunate.  I still think we need to have users start threads on simpler subjects, or on subjects of Christian life - and then you'll see more of the users who want nothing to do with Politics or theological debate participate and feel more comfortable.

well -- the one that comes to mind is the nice little post announcing the first Orthodox homeschool conference - I don't think we got to 5 posts before someone had to find something wrong with it.  :-\ 

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« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2008, 05:41:53 AM »
I should probably pick a little bit of all of the above, but this comment struck a chord.  I'm finding this forum to be the place to go if you want something to complain about.  It never ceases to amaze me that even the most innocuous post will  attract at least one person who MUST find something to complain about.  Its rather disheartening. 

It is rather unfortunate.  I still think we need to have users start threads on simpler subjects, or on subjects of Christian life - and then you'll see more of the users who want nothing to do with Politics or theological debate participate and feel more comfortable.

well -- the one that comes to mind is the nice little post announcing the first Orthodox homeschool conference - I don't think we got to 5 posts before someone had to find something wrong with it.  :-\ 

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« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2008, 08:27:08 AM »
Nothing to stop you from continuing the topic.

Actually, I think there is something from stopping us from continuing.
Often times, I have been interested in dicussing a topic, and the discussion has gone quite well for a few posts, then someone makes a post which is contraversial which takes the thread in a different direction on the same topic. Trying to continue the original discussion becomes futile, and in some instances, causes more outraged posts. My greater investment lies with relationships rather than the topic I'd like to discuss, and so I give up on the topic rather than risk bad blood. This is what stops me from continuing, and it's a shame because it means that many topics end up being dominated by people who shout the loudest.
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« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2008, 08:47:34 AM »
Or over moderate.
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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2008, 10:30:49 AM »
Geek Orthodox--That's me!  :D

Are you uber Geek Orthodox if you've been on online forums since modems were 300 baud?


No.  I think that would make you an Old Modem-ist Orthodox.
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« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2008, 08:26:59 PM »
Geek Orthodox--That's me!  :D

Are you uber Geek Orthodox if you've been on online forums since modems were 300 baud?


and 'forums' were BBS's  :-[

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« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2008, 08:27:58 PM »
Geek Orthodox--That's me!  :D

Are you uber Geek Orthodox if you've been on online forums since modems were 300 baud?


No.  I think that would make you an Old Modem-ist Orthodox.

LOL
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« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2008, 09:55:06 PM »
Geek Orthodox--That's me!  :D

Are you uber Geek Orthodox if you've been on online forums since modems were 300 baud?


and 'forums' were BBS's  :-[

Yes!  Someone else who remembers the good ol' BBS's!  (They seem so ancient now, but our local one didn't die until around 2000.)


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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2008, 10:14:53 PM »
I don't feel that I have much to contribute really. Usually when I get on, there are plenty of posts and mostly what I wanted to say has already been said, but I read a lot of the posts and I will post every once in a while.

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« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2008, 10:15:33 PM »
I met a boyfriend on a BBS, shortly before I met my hubby.  :)
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2008, 09:29:17 AM »
A new topic has been started based on the desire of some users to have more diverse (and less theology-debate) subjects on OC.net.

"Topics we should have on OC.net"
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,18441.0.html
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« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2014, 12:04:59 AM »
Nothing to stop you from continuing the topic.

Actually, I think there is something from stopping us from continuing.
Often times, I have been interested in dicussing a topic, and the discussion has gone quite well for a few posts, then someone makes a post which is contraversial which takes the thread in a different direction on the same topic. Trying to continue the original discussion becomes futile, and in some instances, causes more outraged posts. My greater investment lies with relationships rather than the topic I'd like to discuss, and so I give up on the topic rather than risk bad blood. This is what stops me from continuing, and it's a shame because it means that many topics end up being dominated by people who shout the loudest.

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« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2014, 11:08:32 AM »

As if the mosquitoes weren't bad enough...now there are bugs crawling on the computer screen. 

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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2014, 09:38:43 AM »
Other:

It's a mix of things:

This last year and probably for the at least the next year - taking care of serious family needs - so time has been a huge issue.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to really contribute in the debates - though I do read as many of them as I am able and do learn a lot from them.  If I have something that might actually help somewhere I will post - but that's a rare thing.

Once I've posted something that might be of some help, then I really struggle with the pride thing.  It kicks my tail from here to Wednesday - so I have to really be very very very careful. . . or I take / steal HIS glory. . .and that crushes my heart.  So. . . I am often too weak to post.
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« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2014, 08:11:25 AM »
I completely forgot that I had posted this poll... nearly 6 years ago!
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« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2014, 08:21:36 AM »
Good morning,  Father,

:)  I'm glad you did.
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« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2014, 01:12:45 PM »
I have been lurking for years...I simply prefer to read. I will post when I can, so long as I have something worthwhile to contribute.
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« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2014, 02:33:49 PM »
I have never had a problem finding things to post about.  :P
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« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2014, 02:36:38 PM »
A new topic has been started based on the desire of some users to have more diverse (and less theology-debate) subjects on OC.net.

"Topics we should have on OC.net"
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,18441.0.html

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« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2014, 02:42:32 PM »
A new topic has been started based on the desire of some users to have more diverse (and less theology-debate) subjects on OC.net.

"Topics we should have on OC.net"
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,18441.0.html

The times sure have changed.
From that thread:

IMO it's good, that the forum is focused on theological or wider - religious issues. If someone looks for opinions about Angelina Jolie or lawnmowers he won't search here ;). I wouldn't like this forum to be cluttered with such junk threads.

Fortunately, we have higher standards and discuss Rachel Weisz instead.  :laugh:
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« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2014, 02:48:56 PM »

IMO it's good, that the forum is focused on theological or wider - religious issues. If someone looks for opinions about Angelina Jolie or lawnmowers he won't search here ;). I wouldn't like this forum to be cluttered with such junk threads.

Fortunately, we have higher standards and discuss Rachel Weisz instead.  :laugh:

True that. But then again, Angelina Jolie is so old nowadays that she probably already moved to a retirement home.
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« Reply #66 on: December 09, 2014, 03:17:37 PM »

IMO it's good, that the forum is focused on theological or wider - religious issues. If someone looks for opinions about Angelina Jolie or lawnmowers he won't search here ;). I wouldn't like this forum to be cluttered with such junk threads.

Fortunately, we have higher standards and discuss Rachel Weisz instead.  :laugh:

True that. But then again, Angelina Jolie is so old nowadays that she probably already moved to a retirement home.

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« Reply #67 on: December 09, 2014, 03:25:31 PM »
A new topic has been started based on the desire of some users to have more diverse (and less theology-debate) subjects on OC.net.

"Topics we should have on OC.net"
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The times sure have changed.
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IMO it's good, that the forum is focused on theological or wider - religious issues. If someone looks for opinions about Angelina Jolie or lawnmowers he won't search here ;). I wouldn't like this forum to be cluttered with such junk threads.

Fortunately, we have higher standards and discuss Rachel Weisz instead.  :laugh:

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #68 on: December 09, 2014, 05:56:53 PM »
I've found that I tend to post in bursts, varying between times of posting a lot for a couple weeks, and then barely even getting on for a few weeks. I also tend to just lurk a lot. I feel like since I'm not Orthodox I don't have much to say on most of the discussions here.
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« Reply #69 on: December 09, 2014, 05:59:19 PM »
I've found that I tend to post in bursts, varying between times of posting a lot for a couple weeks, and then barely even getting on for a few weeks. I also tend to just lurk a lot. I feel like since I'm not Orthodox I don't have much to say on most of the discussions here.
I have 9,700 posts and I don't have much to say either.  That has not stopped me yet from posting stuff though.  :P
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« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2014, 06:56:44 PM »
I didn't participate in the poll because I have posted regularly although I haven't lately. However, I think the forum currently is lacking distribution of current news for comment and discussion. Ex. The Holy Synod of the OCA recently elected to the episcopacy one of the principals connected to its financial scandal, a former Secretary to Metropolitan Theodosios whose primacy fostered the scandal that was resolved in 2008, a priest who to my knowledge hasn't attended an Orthodox seminary, and I haven't seen a thread on this matter. (I didn't write this to initiate discussion in this regard here.)
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« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2014, 06:57:36 PM »
I've found that I tend to post in bursts, varying between times of posting a lot for a couple weeks, and then barely even getting on for a few weeks. I also tend to just lurk a lot. I feel like since I'm not Orthodox I don't have much to say on most of the discussions here.
I have 9,700 posts and I don't have much to say either.  That has not stopped me yet from posting stuff though.  :P

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« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2014, 09:19:12 PM »
I've found that I tend to post in bursts, varying between times of posting a lot for a couple weeks, and then barely even getting on for a few weeks. I also tend to just lurk a lot. I feel like since I'm not Orthodox I don't have much to say on most of the discussions here.
I have 9,700 posts and I don't have much to say either.  That has not stopped me yet from posting stuff though.  :P

My posts mainly consist of banning people and food.
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« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2015, 09:40:12 AM »
I enjoy this site a lot, but at the same time I feel that there is too much joking and petty arguing, rather than seriousness and polite disagreement, which would be more fitting of a Christian forum, especially an Orthodox forum.

My complaint is not with the forum itself, but that the members joke so much.
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« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2015, 10:13:59 AM »
I enjoy this site a lot, but at the same time I feel that there is too much joking and petty arguing, rather than seriousness and polite disagreement, which would be more fitting of a Christian forum, especially an Orthodox forum.

My complaint is not with the forum itself, but that the members joke so much.

Christianity isn't identical with a sour puritanism, though it would often seem that way.

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« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2015, 11:53:53 AM »
I get what you mean, but reading a thread and trying to follow its point shouldn't like like wading through knee-high mud. If there's a humor forum, it should stay there. If not, somebody should make one if they wish.

Nobody's asking Orthodox Christians to be constipated puritans. You can have all the ouzo, vodka, Georgian wine, or other Orthodox drink of choice that you want. I'm just expressing a desire for more seriousness (or at the very least, less joking) in the forum.
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« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2015, 12:07:58 PM »
I have to agree with Kostya.

Most of the time the posters on this Forum, for whatever reason, behave less than in an Orthodox manner.  We jump at the chance to correct, ridicule and point out each others' iniquities and shortcomings...and we rejoice when we succeed at proving we are smarter or better.

Instead of using this site to better our knowledge of the Church, to grow closer to God through fellowship....we focus on our differences.  Instead of nurturing and understanding each other, we love to cause strife.

We divide ourselves on Faith - he's too Orthodox (really?),  she's not Orthodox enough....she's a newby...wet behind the ears from baptism, so who is she to dictate to us....he's too old and rigid...set in his ways.  Really, folks?  What about nurturing the newly baptized and gently leading them on their way...with an arm around their shoulders to make sure their roots grow strong in the Faith?

Sure....there's always room for fun.  There ought to be lighthearted threads, jokes and laughter....but, some things ought to be taken seriously.

We need to find a happy medium...there's room for silliness and seriousness.

Our Faith is filled with joy and we should display and exude that joy from our very pores...and stop humiliating others.  Sew peace, not discord.



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« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2015, 12:18:37 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???
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« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2015, 12:37:50 PM »

I would agree with the cynical and judgmental.

Joking is fine, in the right thread.  ;)
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« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2015, 01:43:38 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???

Yes. It's far from impossible.

Think of sarcasm. It's meant to be funny, but can also be used to criticize, judge, and insult.
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« Reply #80 on: June 01, 2015, 01:48:35 PM »
Ok, fair enough, for my part I'll try to be more aware of how/what I'm saying.  :)
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« Reply #81 on: June 01, 2015, 01:52:59 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???

Yes. It's far from impossible.

Think of sarcasm. It's meant to be funny, but can also be used to criticize, judge, and insult.

And politics is another problem.
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« Reply #82 on: June 01, 2015, 02:28:26 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???

Yes. It's far from impossible.

Think of sarcasm. It's meant to be funny, but can also be used to criticize, judge, and insult.

And politics is another problem.

My view of it is this:

This forum is about Orthodox Christianity. There are sections dedicated to other things, and everything that's not about Orthodoxy should be kept there.

When talking about our ancient faith, we should be respectful and serious. We should try to never speak in error, and also realize that we are publicly representing the Church to whoever might be lurking on the forum. Therefore, there should be no joking in the forums that are of a religious nature.

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« Reply #83 on: June 01, 2015, 03:39:03 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???

Yes. It's far from impossible.

Think of sarcasm. It's meant to be funny, but can also be used to criticize, judge, and insult.

And politics is another problem.

My view of it is this:

This forum is about Orthodox Christianity. There are sections dedicated to other things, and everything that's not about Orthodoxy should be kept there.

When talking about our ancient faith, we should be respectful and serious. We should try to never speak in error, and also realize that we are publicly representing the Church to whoever might be lurking on the forum. Therefore, there should be no joking in the forums that are of a religious nature.

I'm not a mod/admin, so it really doesn't matter what I think, but there you have it.

Orthodoxy is not a Sunday only lifestyle.

We should not compartmentalize our Orthodox life into forums where we can cuss, vent, defame, and judge others contrary to Christ's command to "love one another as I have loved you." Either we are striving for theosis or we are heading straight to Hell with no "pass".

Instead, we should be helping each other to grow in Christ.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #84 on: June 01, 2015, 04:06:15 PM »
I'll be honest, this has been a tough forum to 'get' Lots i don't know about Orthodox culture means I don't get some of the jokes and banter, which kind of leaves me standing on the outside with my gob hanging open trying to think of something to add and failing.

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« Reply #85 on: June 01, 2015, 04:10:49 PM »
To our long-time, more experienced members: I think it would be wise for us to stop preaching how we should behave on an Orthodox forum (and risk revealing our gross hypocrisy) and instead encourage our lurkers and infrequent posters to share with us why they don't post here that often.
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« Reply #86 on: June 01, 2015, 04:15:16 PM »
I'll be honest, this has been a tough forum to 'get' Lots i don't know about Orthodox culture means I don't get some of the jokes and banter, which kind of leaves me standing on the outside with my gob hanging open trying to think of something to add and failing.

I'm sorry. It does get a little weird sometimes.  :-\

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« Reply #87 on: June 01, 2015, 04:24:25 PM »
Maybe we shoule have a non-debate moderated forum for newcomers to be able to express themselves and ask questions.

No ad homines would be allowed, specially against newcomers, we should not assume they are inquirers seeking conversion, no acid sarcasm, no Church gossip or rumours, no taking positions on heated issues but just explaining what the current positions are and why people take them.
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« Reply #88 on: June 01, 2015, 04:39:15 PM »
I'll be honest, this has been a tough forum to 'get' Lots i don't know about Orthodox culture means I don't get some of the jokes and banter, which kind of leaves me standing on the outside with my gob hanging open trying to think of something to add and failing.

I'm sorry. It does get a little weird sometimes.  :-\

It's cool, no problem. Getting to know a familiar face on a forum does take time. I shall persevere as I have time - but the other consideration is that I'm trying to not live out my faith journey online, as it were. You don't get an all-dimensions picture of anything on forum interaction, and I seen people become net catholics only to burn out really quickly when reality sunk in. So yeah, I'm a dissatified Anglican coming here to try and learn something, make a few friends on the way, and if I find any wisdom at all for myself, try to share it when appropriate.

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« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2015, 04:41:24 PM »
Aren't the Moderated Forums moderated more heavily?  I mean, there has always seemed to be a higher standard of discussion in the Convert/Faith Issues and Liturgy areas, that I have seen.

The Other Topics has this note: "Home for information, randomness, diversions, silly threads, and other unclassified topics. Not for serious debate."  And Free-for-All this: "Discussion of hot topics that may be of a polemical nature."  Seems self-explanatory to me. 

Of course, politics is the den of scum and villainy, but this is be expected.
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« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2015, 04:43:37 PM »
I'll be honest, this has been a tough forum to 'get' Lots i don't know about Orthodox culture means I don't get some of the jokes and banter, which kind of leaves me standing on the outside with my gob hanging open trying to think of something to add and failing.

Congratulations in maintaining your sanity.

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« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2015, 04:48:20 PM »
Maybe just a "Newcomer" thread and a forum and Orthodox FAQs.

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« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2015, 06:15:17 PM »
it's more likely the synthesis of the various personalities that make up this place.

Only the girls in the forum bring the occasional sanity.
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« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2015, 07:04:29 PM »
So if I have this correct: people here are too judgmental, over-critical and mean-spirited, but at the same time too light-hearted, casual and frivolous? ???

Yes. It's far from impossible.

Think of sarcasm. It's meant to be funny, but can also be used to criticize, judge, and insult.

And politics is another problem.
There is always the option to not subscribe to politics.
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« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2015, 07:05:55 PM »
Maybe we shoule have a non-debate moderated forum for newcomers to be able to express themselves and ask questions.

No ad homines would be allowed, specially against newcomers, we should not assume they are inquirers seeking conversion, no acid sarcasm, no Church gossip or rumours, no taking positions on heated issues but just explaining what the current positions are and why people take them.
Isn't that what the Convert Issues section is for?
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« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2015, 08:05:10 PM »
Are we really listening to those who don't post much or just using this thread as yet another venue for sounding off on the culture of this forum?
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« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2015, 08:15:23 PM »
Maybe we shoule have a non-debate moderated forum for newcomers to be able to express themselves and ask questions.

No ad homines would be allowed, specially against newcomers, we should not assume they are inquirers seeking conversion, no acid sarcasm, no Church gossip or rumours, no taking positions on heated issues but just explaining what the current positions are and why people take them.
Isn't that what the Convert Issues section is for?

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« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2015, 08:25:17 PM »
I couldn't choose a reason, but Kostya and Liza voiced my concerns very well. I've been afraid to contribute much to the forums for the reasons they pointed out. And equally afraid to open up as to why.

As others have mentioned here, some of the threads can get, um, complex. When a topic is theologically or politically way over my head, I just find another thread.

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« Reply #98 on: June 02, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.
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« Reply #99 on: June 02, 2015, 04:14:38 PM »
Joking is eternal.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #100 on: June 02, 2015, 04:43:17 PM »
Only the girls in the forum bring the occasional sanity.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #101 on: June 02, 2015, 04:56:05 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #102 on: June 02, 2015, 05:01:55 PM »
I wouldn't consider turning this forum into Monachos to be an improvement.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #103 on: June 02, 2015, 05:14:25 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Is this a roundabout 'Jesus never laughed' reference I see before me?
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #104 on: June 02, 2015, 05:44:30 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Is this a roundabout 'Jesus never laughed' reference I see before me?
If Kostya doesn't want to post politics outside the Politics board and doesn't want to joke around, then I encourage Kostya to refrain from doing what he doesn't want to do. ;) No one's telling him he has to joke around.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #105 on: June 02, 2015, 06:52:56 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Is this a roundabout 'Jesus never laughed' reference I see before me?
If Kostya doesn't want to post politics outside the Politics board and doesn't want to joke around, then I encourage Kostya to refrain from doing what he doesn't want to do. ;) No one's telling him he has to joke around.

There's a time and a place for everything, and sometimes the kidding around happens when it shouldn't. I suspect this is what Kostya is getting at.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #106 on: June 02, 2015, 06:58:29 PM »
There's a time and a place for everything, and sometimes the kidding around happens when it shouldn't. I suspect this is what Kostya is getting at.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #107 on: June 02, 2015, 07:13:06 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Kostya, St. Irenaeus wrote a hilarious satire of Valentinian Gnostic cosmology in Against Heresies.  St. Augustine made a complex joke about Jesus tricking the devil in one of his writings, that Metropolitan Kallistos Ware quotes in his video on salvation.  So there is humor in the Patristic tradition.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #108 on: June 02, 2015, 07:27:06 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Kostya, St. Irenaeus wrote a hilarious satire of Valentinian Gnostic cosmology in Against Heresies.  St. Augustine made a complex joke about Jesus tricking the devil in one of his writings, that Metropolitan Kallistos Ware quotes in his video on salvation.  So there is humor in the Patristic tradition.

There's a time and a place for everything, and sometimes the kidding around happens when it shouldn't. I suspect this is what Kostya is getting at.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #109 on: June 02, 2015, 07:42:42 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Kostya, St. Irenaeus wrote a hilarious satire of Valentinian Gnostic cosmology in Against Heresies.  St. Augustine made a complex joke about Jesus tricking the devil in one of his writings, that Metropolitan Kallistos Ware quotes in his video on salvation.  So there is humor in the Patristic tradition.

There's a time and a place for everything, and sometimes the kidding around happens when it shouldn't. I suspect this is what Kostya is getting at.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #110 on: June 02, 2015, 08:39:03 PM »
So let's take it upon ourselves to set an example and make the forum better. No politics outside of the politics forum, and no joking.

Is this a roundabout 'Jesus never laughed' reference I see before me?

In this ancient icon of Germanic Jesus, we clearly see Jesus laughed with a very wide open mouth, making his blue eye sparkle quite merrily.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #111 on: June 02, 2015, 08:39:47 PM »
It doesn't appear to me that LBK is insulting wgw, Peter, just making an observation on their statement.

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« Reply #112 on: June 02, 2015, 09:00:58 PM »
It doesn't appear to me that LBK is insulting wgw, Peter, just making an observation on their statement.
There is history there. I'll just leave it at that.  :-X
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #113 on: June 02, 2015, 09:34:13 PM »
ps. never question the green.

the green is unquestionable, and thus never in error.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #114 on: June 02, 2015, 09:39:37 PM »
Why never question green? Is it an infallible color?

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« Reply #115 on: June 02, 2015, 09:44:17 PM »
Why never question green? Is it an infallible color?

in a word, yes


from the rules page

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #116 on: June 02, 2015, 09:49:29 PM »
Although, I am reasonable certain, despite the use of Green, that most of the things written in that color here, do NOT come from the Holy Spirit.

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« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2015, 09:51:08 PM »
Oh okay. From now on I will not comment on any green text.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2015, 09:52:41 PM »
Why never question green? Is it an infallible color?

in a word, yes


from the rules page

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PtA is a moderator
PtA used Green
Therefore it cannot be questioned
I wouldn't use exactly these words, but yes, this is accurate. We have a protocol in place for posters to question moderator actions via private messages. If you follow this protocol (not talking to just Denise here), then you will have no need to question moderator actions in public.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2015, 09:54:02 PM »
Although, I am reasonable certain, despite the use of Green, that most of the things written in that color here, do NOT come from the Holy Spirit.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2015, 09:55:43 PM »
Although, I am reasonable certain, despite the use of Green, that most of the things written in that color here, do NOT come from the Holy Spirit.

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« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2015, 09:58:32 PM »
Probably Peter, since he's the one who wrote it.

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« Reply #122 on: June 02, 2015, 10:12:23 PM »
Although, I am reasonable certain, despite the use of Green, that most of the things written in that color here, do NOT come from the Holy Spirit.

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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #123 on: June 03, 2015, 03:42:36 AM »
To reply about the humour thing, if I may, it's not so much that humour is shared, it's that sometimes the banter is such that it excludes people who aren't in on the joke. I don't mind humour in the slightest - but if I don't get the joke, I can't really join in.

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« Reply #124 on: June 03, 2015, 04:17:26 AM »
The very first thread I started got shut down due to people going on about neo-Confederacy and Southern rights. People here take it too far. I understand why the mods seem heavy-handed at times.
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« Reply #125 on: June 03, 2015, 11:32:42 AM »
The very first thread I started got shut down due to people going on about neo-Confederacy and Southern rights. People here take it too far. I understand why the mods seem heavy-handed at times.

What thread was this?
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« Reply #126 on: June 03, 2015, 07:09:01 PM »
The very first thread I started got shut down due to people going on about neo-Confederacy and Southern rights. People here take it too far. I understand why the mods seem heavy-handed at times.

What thread was this?

I reckon it's this one:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,61402.0/all.html

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« Reply #127 on: June 03, 2015, 07:48:00 PM »
To reply about the humour thing, if I may, it's not so much that humour is shared, it's that sometimes the banter is such that it excludes people who aren't in on the joke. I don't mind humour in the slightest - but if I don't get the joke, I can't really join in.
I feel bad about this. I'm pretty sure I do this and don't even realize it. It is so easy to joke around with people and forget that not everyone knows what we are talking about. Feel free to slap me up side the head if I do it.
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #128 on: June 03, 2015, 07:55:52 PM »
To reply about the humour thing, if I may, it's not so much that humour is shared, it's that sometimes the banter is such that it excludes people who aren't in on the joke. I don't mind humour in the slightest - but if I don't get the joke, I can't really join in.
I feel bad about this. I'm pretty sure I do this and don't even realize it. It is so easy to joke around with people and forget that not everyone knows what we are talking about. Feel free to slap me up side the head if I do it.

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« Reply #129 on: June 07, 2015, 12:46:36 AM »
If I were a more cunning thinker or a more capable writer, I might post more often; after all, I'm here nearly every day. Most of the time, however, I refrain from posting because I just don't feel as though I have anything meaningful to contribute or otherwise expect that someone else will come along (and they usually do) who will make my point better than I could.

I'm not much of a fan of posting frivolously or jokingly myself, either. Once in a while, sure, but I'm not going to pad my post count with it.

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« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2015, 05:15:37 PM »
I wouldn't consider turning this forum into Monachos to be an improvement.
I know that Monachos has a more serious tone, stricter moderation, and more comprehensive and weighty topics (Liturgy, Monasticism, Patristics) that OC.net might not take on, or might not include. However, I don't understand what you mean that this forum will turn into Monachos. If you really want an example of a serious orthodox forum, look at the Дiаконникъ from the website www.deacon.ru, and you will see that the rules are strictly enforced, that lay posters are limited to one post a day, and that laymen asking for advice is explicitly not allowed. OC.net will not turn into that, but I don't see how it can turn into Monachos either.

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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2015, 06:24:56 PM »
Let us please stop speaking of the dead (Monachos, may thy memory be eternal!), ok?
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Re: For Those Who Don't Post Much (or Who Don't Post At All)
« Reply #132 on: June 17, 2015, 03:52:14 AM »
It's quite strange. I feel really welcome in my home parish but feel positively unwelcome here. I've taken part in conversations on a lot of boards dealing with a lot of topics but never seen such a large percentage of posts, both my own and those from others, receive so much willful(?) misunderstanding and draw so many negative replies as here. So many who don't give any indication of having any particular qualifications seem to consider themselves experts in all things Orthodox and guardians of Orthodox purity.

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« Reply #133 on: June 17, 2015, 06:33:24 AM »
I thank God I found a parish before I stumbled on OrthodoxChristianity.net. If this board was the face of Orthodoxy I'd met first, I would have run a mile.
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True. Some of the Online Orthodox might be crazier than regular parish folks, but some are serious about what they're doing. You just have to be careful of whom you are meeting.