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The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« on: October 04, 2008, 07:10:36 PM »
I found an amusing site today. It charts the growth of Wal-Mart over the last forty-five years. Each green dot indicates one store.

http://projects.flowingdata.com/walmart/?walmart
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 07:16:38 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 07:20:22 PM »
Yikes!  I have only been to a Walmart once and it only took a few minutes and I had to leave. It was a creepy and soulless place which induced nausea!

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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 07:22:42 PM »
Who'd a thunk a lil' ol' Ozarkian boy would one day create a capitalist empire? 
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2008, 07:31:19 PM »
Awesome! ;D

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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2008, 07:49:32 PM »
Who'd a thunk a lil' ol' Ozarkian boy would one day create a capitalist empire? 
Unfortunately, most of the damage done by Wal-Mart has occurred after Sam Walton's death. From what I know of him, I think he would have cringed at tactics like giving the employees health insurance with hidden costs and paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2008, 07:58:23 PM »
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paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards

I'm glad I took the time to read that, rather than just assuming...

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2008, 10:43:14 PM »
It's incredible how quickly it's grown.  I visited a Walmart in Dalian, China in 2001.  Interestingly enough, my Chinese friends only thought of it as an American novelty and not a place they would actually shop.  Everyone knew it was filled with the worst quality stuff (insert joke about it being made in China here) and that most of the goods were terribly overpriced.  Since it still followed the American business model, haggling over prices wasn't really done there and therefore my Chinese friends warned me to stay away or I'd waste my money.  It was much better (and way more fun) to go haggle with the street vendors. 
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2008, 10:52:57 PM »
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... paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards
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Ewwww. How unutterably tacky.  :P

 Bet the head honchos get squillions in salary and perks, though.  >:(
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2008, 11:28:14 PM »
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... paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards
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Ewwww. How unutterably tacky.  :P

 Bet the head honchos get squillions in salary and perks, though.  >:(

And someone apparently didn't read the article referenced.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 07:00:44 AM »
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... paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards
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Ewwww. How unutterably tacky.  :P

 Bet the head honchos get squillions in salary and perks, though.  >:(

And someone apparently didn't read the article referenced.
Not necessarily. I believe it's horribly tacky, and not because it's forced upon them (it's not), but because Wal-Mart is attempting to exploit their own employees for profit. If they paid their employees a living wage, there would be less incentive for the employees to tie up their money at one store just for a few dollars a month. Wal-Mart is manipulating the people who work for them, and I do have a problem with that.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2008, 08:29:46 AM »
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paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards

I'm glad I took the time to read that, rather than just assuming...

Agreed (i.e. me too).

Bet the head honchos get squillions in salary and perks, though.  >:( 

Just because a number of the heirs are on the world's top-10 richest persons list doesn't mean they're making imaginary amounts ;) lol.  (Just pulling your cheeply-made, Wal-Mart purchased chain.)
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2008, 04:42:27 PM »
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paying their employees in the form of Wal-Mart gift cards

I'm glad I took the time to read that, rather than just assuming...

Agreed (i.e. me too).

Bet the head honchos get squillions in salary and perks, though.  >:( 

Just because a number of the heirs are on the world's top-10 richest persons list doesn't mean they're making imaginary amounts ;) lol.  (Just pulling your cheeply-made, Wal-Mart purchased chain.)

You spelled "cheaply" wrong. (Makes Walmart joke) Should've bought that dictionary at the bookstore instead of Walmart! :P
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 06:50:59 PM »
Even though Wal-Mart could save me a goodly amount of money (especially on my meager income), I make every effort to avoid shopping there.  Not only does the cooporation engage in questionable practices, the shopping experience leaves much to be desired, especially on a Saturday. It's literally exhausting.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 08:46:52 PM »
West Virginians love "Walley World"...yes, that's what they call it, and it's probably the closest thing to a mall people go to in their income bracket.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 09:41:03 PM »
"Walley-World"... There are some people here in Indiana that also call it that.

If Wal-Mart was the only place around to shop, of course I'd shop there out of necessity. I'm not saying all Wal-Marts are unpleasant experiences (much depends on the management and employees), just the ones that I have been to here in Indianapolis. I lived in a smaller town growing up and the local Wal-Mart was more pleasant, although the K-Mart was even better.

I understand in certain areas Wal-Mart is about it.
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 09:44:20 PM »
Just because a number of the heirs are on the world's top-10 richest persons list doesn't mean they're making imaginary amounts ;) lol.  (Just pulling your cheeply-made, Wal-Mart purchased chain.)

You spelled "cheaply" wrong. (Makes Walmart joke) Should've bought that dictionary at the bookstore instead of Walmart! :P

It was actually a slip related to my thea's favorite joke (started off as a K-Mart joke, but now is a Wal-Mart joke):

What did the birds say when they flew over the Wal-Mart?

Cheep Cheep! Cheep Cheep!

(I couldn't count, on all the fingers and toes in Cleveland, how many times she's said that joke in the last 20 years.)
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 10:51:48 PM »
I live in a community of 100,000 people and there are THREE super Wal-Marts within a six mile radius of eachother.  And the sad part about it is that alot of the local shops have ceased to exhist because of the spread of these mega-hyper-super marts.  If my bank werent there, I'd never go to the place at all (and I'm thinking of switching banks....like soon.)

The food has gone down in quality and up in price.  Most of the clothing I would not be caught dead in, and it's cheaper to buy the movies at Hastings and get electronics from Half.com.

The only ones we have to blame are ourselves, and our want for everything under one space, nevermind quality, freshness, true value and friendly, efficient service.  Lines at the place cans stretch to the clothing aisles because they refuse to hire sufficient staff.  And the staff they have is not that congenial.  If I get out of there with a look in the eyes in the miracle.

Bottom line, we want to change it, complain.  Or shop somewhere else.

 

Personally, I shop at the Mercado El Monterey down the street.  Good meat market prices and hommade tortillas & tamales.  Frag Wal-Mart!
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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 11:15:49 PM »
I'm with you on the local bodega. We buy many things from La Tortilleria and from an Asian market, East East. Good stuff, good prices, and people who actually want to do business with me. I don't ask for much, but these three I do require.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2008, 12:15:49 AM »
We buy many things from La Tortilleria and from an Asian market, East East. Good stuff, good prices,...
I love East East!  I used to go to Binh Tay, but they're very rude and the place stinks to high heaven.  Gotta give 'em credit though; tyring to make Durian and the Third World haute couture ain't easy.  ;D You might want to try the Latino Market over on St. Louis street.  She wife is from Columbia while the husband is from Egypt so you can get Hispanic and Arabic spices.  Does it get any better?  

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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2008, 01:42:54 AM »
We buy many things from La Tortilleria and from an Asian market, East East. Good stuff, good prices,...
I love East East!  I used to go to Binh Tay, but they're very rude and the place stinks to high heaven.  Gotta give 'em credit though; tyring to make Durian and the Third World haute couture ain't easy.  ;D You might want to try the Latino Market over on St. Louis street.  She wife is from Columbia while the husband is from Egypt so you can get Hispanic and Arabic spices.  Does it get any better?  

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The current economy has pushed our family to do more grocery and household supply shopping at WalMart. We also frequent Dollar Stores and Big Lots.
Now we are even thinking of getting a small freezer and shopping in bulk at places like Costco.

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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2008, 01:53:41 AM »
Speaking of prices- I've noticed that the usually higher priced "local organic" goods in one of my local chain grocery stores are actually cheaper in some instances than the factory farm (is that the right term?) goods.  I think it's a great thing- transportation costs will make local, healthier foods cheaper in the long run and local industries will prosper...or, at least I hope that's what happens.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2008, 01:58:06 AM »
Speaking of prices- I've noticed that the usually higher priced "local organic" goods in one of my local chain grocery stores are actually cheaper in some instances than the factory farm (is that the right term?) goods.  I think it's a great thing- transportation costs will make local, healthier foods cheaper in the long run and local industries will prosper...or, at least I hope that's what happens.

I am with you on that. Wendell Berry has a lot to say about living locally and commitment to a specific geography.

Even a few generations ago, city neighborhoods were the "small towns" within big metropolis's (that is a spelling error for sure!)

Hopefully we will see a return to the idea of neighborhoods, local industries, regional distribution etc.

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2008, 08:30:45 AM »
We buy many things from La Tortilleria and from an Asian market, East East. Good stuff, good prices,...
I love East East!  I used to go to Binh Tay, but they're very rude and the place stinks to high heaven.  Gotta give 'em credit though; tyring to make Durian and the Third World haute couture ain't easy.  ;D You might want to try the Latino Market over on St. Louis street.  She wife is from Columbia while the husband is from Egypt so you can get Hispanic and Arabic spices.  Does it get any better?  
Cool! I"ll have to check it out.

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Re: The Wal-Mart Epidemic
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2008, 09:20:13 AM »
I love East East!  I used to go to Binh Tay, but they're very rude and the place stinks to high heaven.  Gotta give 'em credit though; tyring to make Durian and the Third World haute couture ain't easy.  ;D You might want to try the Latino Market over on St. Louis street.  She wife is from Columbia while the husband is from Egypt so you can get Hispanic and Arabic spices.  Does it get any better?  

Oh, now that's awesome.  We are definitely going there this week.  :)  Thanks for the hot tip!
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2008, 09:28:58 AM »
"Hot tip" - Is that a pun (spices)?   :D
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"Hot tip" - Is that a pun (spices)?   :D

When you're married to a teacher, puns become contagious.  :laugh:
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2008, 10:05:03 AM »
In Ontario (Canada) our Wal-marts are much nicer than stores like Zellers and K-mart and Woolco.  I shop there because I have 4 kids with another on the way and I need to save some money.  I certainly don't buy electronics there, but I have bought CD's and DVD's there, however I don't think there's any savings there.  We buy kids clothing, kids shoes, staple items and batteries.

Our Wal-marts sell a lot of Canadian products too.

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2008, 11:13:17 AM »
This was recently posted at fark.com (beware of coarse language at the link):

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In 100 years, there will be just one Walmart, visible from New York and Los Angeles. It will occupy the state formerly known as Oklahoma, and it will be the engine of the entire US economy. Everyone in the country will work there at least one day a week, in order to bring home enough rations to sustain the family for another few days.

Towering 5,000ft in the air, generating thunderstorms through it's sheer electified mass, people will worship at the gates. They will lay down their hands on the floor and gaze up at the almighty black cube of consumerism, praying for a 2 for 1 offer on childrens sneakers, a 33% extra tub of processed potato salad, and a free sample of Sunny Delight 4 and a half miles down the juice isle.

This is your future, America. Don't say that you weren't warned.
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