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« on: October 02, 2008, 02:54:04 PM »

it  seems to  so devilishly fit  that  the  beast is the devolved  energy  business roughly starting with the establishment of  the  arabian  concessions between  the  world  wars and  the  bolshevik  revolution...imagery  symbols are like international  highway signs.. less likely  to  lead to  word  arguments so  its  a good  starting  point  to  lead  one  into  a sense  of  urgency..
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 05:21:29 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 09:35:48 PM »

the  7  heads  represent  the  7 sisters  of the  old  standard oil  monopoly that  had  their  family  reunion  in  the  arabian  peninsula in  order  to  get  the  concession from  the  house  of saud.... the  heads are  lionsheads as   the lion is the symbol  of  britain..  british petroleum headed  the  consortium  that  established the  conspiratorial  covenent in 1994 around  the  caspian  sea oil.. the sea which  the  beast  rises  forth  from...
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Feel free to use proper grammar at any time now....
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2008, 01:05:20 AM »

Beware the Beast, Ukie....he's wearing a politician's suit:
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2008, 07:39:20 AM »

Hey, while he's at it, he can use Kelsey Grammer too!
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2008, 03:39:30 PM »

the  harlot  that  rides  the  beast is  azerbajian as  the  father/son  of  perdition team(the  ruling aliyev duo)  maestroed  the caspian  sea  oil which was  the 1994 covenent(bp consortium  buys  the  oil thus  triggering  the record bull run)and  the 1999 confirmation  of  the  covenent(same  consortium buys  the  pipeline  operatorship and  footdrags construction thus  triggering  the record  bear  market).
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2008, 03:42:15 PM »

It's all so clear now!
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2008, 03:49:33 PM »

the  harlot  that  rides  the  beast is  azerbajian as  the  father/son  of  perdition team(the  ruling aliyev duo)  maestroed  the caspian  sea  oil which was  the 1994 covenent(bp consortium  buys  the  oil thus  triggering  the record bull run)and  the 1999 confirmation  of  the  covenent(same  consortium buys  the  pipeline  operatorship and  footdrags construction thus  triggering  the record  bear  market).
1.  You've already started two other threads to flesh out your image of the Beast of Revelation.  Rather than start a new thread for each part, why don't you just post each part as a subsequent post on the same one thread?
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2008, 06:26:29 PM »

the beast is  as  a leopard(changing  oil prices/changing spots)as  evidenced  by  the  meve  from  10 a barrel(1999) to 37 a barrel(the  operatorship  sale  of  the  caspian oil)to 17 a barrel(the 1992 wounding  of  the  beast  in  the  form of  a second  chance imf  loan  into  the russian far  east) to 150   a  barrel(starting with the1992 healing  of  the  wound in the  form of  an  agreement  between  saudi  arabia and  the  oil  oligarchs  of  russia to  limit exports culminating in the  turks  slapping  around  the  kurds  in  oil  rich  northern  iraq)
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2008, 06:45:47 PM »

You know, until you've explained this divine wisdom, I never realized that Revelation was all about oil prices c. A.D. 2000. That would have made so much sense to the early Christians who placed it in the canon. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2008, 06:47:50 PM »

Oooh, how I looove conspiracy theories! YUM!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2008, 02:20:22 PM »

turkey was  the  original  jihadist thrust so  history  is repeating itself as  they  take  saddam hussein's place  by  stirring  up the kurds in  oilrich  north iraq..  this began  after the  completion  of  the  caspian  pipeline(7  year  tribulation)... they collect  transit  taxes   that  are based on the  barrel price so  they  are  like funding  footsoldiers for  jihad.... this  panjihadist  mindset is  now  completely  formed in  the  sense  that  saudi  arabia(bin ladin) is  the  paymaster.. egypt (zawahiri) the  intelligence.. pakistan(islamic bomb)  the muscle... and azerbajian(aliyev father/son) the  harlot
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2008, 02:32:43 PM »

turkey was  the  original  jihadist thrust so  history  is repeating itself as  they  take  saddam hussein's place  by  stirring  up the kurds in  oilrich  north iraq..  this began  after the  completion  of  the  caspian  pipeline(7  year  tribulation)... they collect  transit  taxes   that  are based on the  barrel price so  they  are  like funding  footsoldiers for  jihad.... this  panjihadist  mindset is  now  completely  formed in  the  sense  that  saudi  arabia(bin ladin) is  the  paymaster.. egypt (zawahiri) the  intelligence.. pakistan(islamic bomb)  the muscle... and azerbajian(aliyev father/son) the  harlot

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2008, 02:39:22 PM »

upon the  7 lionsheads of the beast are 10  horns and  upon  those horns  10 crowns but  why two  seperate  symbols  for 10?(10  of  the   "historic" opec are  islamic nations/crowns  and the  10  horns symbolize  the  price  goring  or  gouging of  the  infidel  nations....also  the feet  of  a bear would  symbolize  russian/soviet  land/sea  holdings around  the  caspian.... 
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2008, 02:58:37 PM »

and  upon  his  head  blasphamies( oil prices go  up  fast down slow..opec members  "agreeing" to  themselves.. peakoil...etc)and  the  dragon gave  him  his  power(firebreathing oil  fields  that must  burn off excess)and  his  seat gave  him  great  authority(meetings in  vienna).. who  can  make  war  upon  the  beast(what  can  we  do  we  just  have  to  pay it)...all will wonder after  the   beast(how  many  know why  oil  was 10 a barrel in  1998?)
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2008, 03:01:57 PM »

Interesting--rising oil prices are now blasphemy. They must be against the Second Ecumenical Council of Detroit.
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2008, 03:36:03 PM »

the  second  beast comes  out of  the  earth(nation /america) as  a two horned ( workable dualistic  system of capitalism/democracy)lamb(america is  young)and  will serve  the  first oilbeast(the  last  three  conflicts of  kosovo,persian gulf1, persian gulf2 all have  resulted  in  the  preservation  of  the balancing act that  the  oilbeast  enjoys  namely  that  on one  hand  they  don't want  oilprices  based on   supply and  demand pre1973 and  on  the other hand  they  dont  want  to  lose  control  of  the  oil
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2008, 03:41:50 PM »

Kron, instead of posting a new thread each time, please just reply to this one. As it is, a moderator must come behind you and merge your posts into this thread anyway, so it would be helpful to us if you would post here instead. To do so, click on the topic, and near the right side above the first post and below the last one is a button marked "reply." Click on it, and then type your post.

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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2008, 03:52:02 PM »

the  confirmation  of the  covenent with  the  many  for  7( 1999 operatorship  sale of  the  caspian  oil which  triggers  the  7 year  tribulation)   leads  to  the  daily blood  sacrifice  to  israel(we  use  energy everyday/we  die  for  oil)  and  the  oil  oligarchs of  russia are  jewish(christians control western oil and  muslims  control  opec) which  leads  to  the abomination(russian  stock  market  drops as  oil  oligarch  money  goes  to  israel to  rebuid  the temple  with military  upgrades to  protect  against  jihad)  that  causes desolation(armageddon)
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2008, 05:59:38 PM »

You know, until you've explained this divine wisdom, I never realized that Revelation was all about oil prices c. A.D. 2000. That would have made so much sense to the early Christians who placed it in the canon. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2008, 07:10:30 PM »

40  months  after  the  confirmation of  the covenent  came  the  wounding  of  the  beast(imf  loan  into  russian  far east  oil  that drove  down  oil  prices) and  the  healing  of  the  wound(saudi  agreement with  the  multinational  russian oil   oligarchs to limit  exports  for  6  months  thus reversing  the  downward  movement  in  prices)
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2008, 07:24:53 PM »

the  antichrist  must come  out  of  the  oil  business because energy  encompases all the  earthly  realms(politics,economics  religion).. only one  man  fits  the  bill ...the  son  of  heydar aliyev whose  full name  is  ilkham  heydar  aliyev... what could be  more  antichristian  than a communist muslim who  gains  control  of  the  worlds  swingoil  the  way  that  business has  been  run  since  1973...
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2008, 07:27:36 PM »

My vote goes to Obama. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2008, 07:34:32 PM »

the  antichrist  must come  out  of  the  oil  business because energy  encompases all the  earthly  realms(politics,economics  religion).. only one  man  fits  the  bill ...the  son  of  heydar aliyev whose  full name  is  ilkham  heydar  aliyev... what could be  more  antichristian  than a communist muslim who  gains  control  of  the  worlds  swingoil  the  way  that  business has  been  run  since  1973...

So the anti-Christ is Azeri?
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2008, 07:57:34 PM »

in  1998, 60  minutes did  a show on azerbajian calling  heydar  the  most  powerful  man  in  the  world...when  the  soviet  union  fell apart  azerbajian  broke  away  and the old  azer political  family created  a 10% stake  in the consortium  that footdragged  the  oil( the the  1994 covenant and  the  1999 confirmation  of  the  covenent  with the  many  for 7).. this caspian  oil logistically synched  up  with  all the oil  in  northern iraq(the  shared neighborhood of  sadaam and  the  kurds that  holds massive  reserves that  have  been sat upon since ww2) and  is  what  drove  oil  speculatively down  to  10   a barrel in  1998.. remember  the  shootout  in  the armenian  paliament when  they  announced  that  georgia would  get  the pipeline? this  was  due to  sheverdnaze(the white fox) and  his  connections  back  to  the  russian  oil  oligarchs who  control  the  north  caspian...
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2008, 10:34:29 PM »

the beast is  as  a leopard(changing  oil prices/changing spots)
The metaphor is that "the leopard cannot change his spots".
It actually comes from the Bible:
"If the Ethiopian shall change his skin, or the leopardess her spots, then shall ye be able to do good having learnt evil." (Jeremiah 13:12) In other words, just as it is impossible for the leopard to change its spots, so it is impossible to do good through evil means. So you have used the exact opposite of a biblical metaphor to "prove" your case for your exegesis. Will you now accept that you don't know what you're talking about?
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2008, 10:54:37 PM »

Will you now accept that you don't know what you're talking about?

That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2008, 11:22:31 PM »

That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2008, 05:38:54 PM »

as  a baby  leopard  morphs  into adulthood  it  changes  its  spots  just  as  the  oil  business has  changed(the  7  headed beast)..  the  second  beast  is  a lamb because  it  has  been  corrupted  by  the  first  oil beast.. the  lamb(america  the  young  country) has  two  horns(capitalism  and  democracy) and  it serves the first beast by  preserving  the  balancing  act(on  one  side keep  the  prices from  being  freemarket  based pre 1973 and  on  the  other  side don't lose  control of  the oil)... and  the   second  beast  will perform  miracles  for  the  world  to  see.. will bring  fire  from the  heavens  to  the  earth(the recent world wide  coverage  of  the  amazing  accomplishment of  sending  a craft  to mars and  having  it launched  back  to  earth).. also  the  turks  have invaded  northern  iraq  again because  the  oil prices  are plummeting.. dr.rice said  very  little  about  this  sovereign invasion compared  to what  the  russians  did in  georgia  who  were merely  tring  to  protect  the  baku  pipeline by  creating a buffer  between jihadist chechnya/dagestan and  the  caspian beast... also,  the  euphrates  related  verse  in the  bible that  binds turkey(pipeline transit  taxes) and  iraq(the  slapping around  of  the  kurds) is  linked  into  the  realm of 200 million(islamic  population of  pakistan,kashmir,and  afghanistan) that  the  antichrist  releases his  4  armies from that causes  the  armageddon  against  israel..  the 4  army/mindsets are  zionism(the  mo)ssad  is  set  up in  iran/pakistan)jihad,and  the  split  american military(pat  tillman  fragging and  sen liebermann supporting  john  mccain)
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2008, 06:27:13 PM »

as  a baby  leopard  morphs  into adulthood  it  changes  its  spots  just  as  the  oil  business has  changed(the  7  headed beast)..
Now you're really clutching at straws. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »

OK, what are the trials and tribulations mankind has faced BEFORE all these prophecies come true?
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2008, 09:09:44 PM »

That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2008, 02:20:53 PM »

the stakes(trials  and  tribulations) are rising.. st john of  kronstadt wrote that God  is  simple(God/thoughts..Son/words...Holy Spirit/deeds) so the  devil is  complex...an  adversary who loves the  endless arguments as  seen in politics  and the legal world...  king  abdullah is in  afghanistan.. when  the wahabbis  get  up  to go  somewhere  take  note for  it  portends big  events.. the last time  this happened was  the  healing of the beasts wound( the  russian oil oligarch  deal  to limit  exports in  reaction to  the  second imf loan(wounding of  the  beast). now,however,  the oil  move  is  not  a spec move,  but real ,therefore more  dangerous.. the  russian far  east oil  is  coming  and  the freezing  weather  keeps it  from being  manipulated.. a verse  from  the  famous russian poem  comes  to mind .. when  the  sleigh  begins  to  move  it  will pass all  the  others.. or  in  beastial  terms,  world  supply  is like  an intersection with  4 stations  all selling  for  4 a gallon.. if  one starts  selling  for  three, all will follow ... but the  bad  news is  that it took too long..long  enough for  the wahabbis  and  their  allies  to  marshall up  their  resources,  human  and  financial, to  bait  the  primed   pitbull israel who  has  rebuilt  the  temple with  huge/sudden  russian oil oligarch money(witness russian  market  selloff in  last  year).. oil money  is  blood money that  slays  the  innocent.. an   abomination to  god.. the  abomination  that  leads  to  desolation ...
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That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge.  Roll Eyes

We have to try. There is a soul at stake.


Ever tried reasoning with a fanatic? Lots of fun.  Tongue

Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic... Sad
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2008, 03:54:01 PM »

Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic... Sad

Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia?

What is Schizophrenia from NAMI
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Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic... Sad

Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia?

What is Schizophrenia from NAMI

1. I'm not diagnosing him or anyone else as being anything. I said maybe this person is schizophrenic because of these religious, nonsensical ramblings.

2. Yes, I know what schizophrenia is. Contrary to popular opinion, I often do think before I post. Wink

3. In the words of GabrieltheCelt: calm down. I meant no offense. Wink
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2008, 06:53:46 PM »

profiling  the harsh desert,islam"s birthplace, the limited  amounts  of  grass and water produced two  harsh fighting styles... one  is  that  if  you don't anniliate  your  enemy you  are weak and  two , if  you're  going  down  take  your  enemy  with  you.. the  latter  would  apply  to  the  modern  jihad.. the  wahabbis  know  that  they're  sword  is  being  taken  away  from  them for  good  now  that  the god  controlled(cold) russian  far east   oil  is  online(65 dollar  drop)..i look  for osama bin ladin  and/or dr. zawahiri  to  give  themselves  up or  martyr  themselves soon....
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2008, 11:58:40 PM »

1. I'm not diagnosing him or anyone else as being anything. I said maybe this person is schizophrenic because of these religious, nonsensical ramblings.

Regardless of what kron3 posts, he/she didn't need to be labeled schizophrenic.

2. Yes, I know what schizophrenia is. Contrary to popular opinion, I often do think before I post. Wink

Stopping after Pat Robertson would have made your point crystal clear.

3. In the words of GabrieltheCelt: calm down. I meant no offense. Wink

I wasn't offended other than seeing the spectre of randomly diagnosing mental illness as not a good idea, unless you're somebody who knows about and deals with mental illness day to day.   Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2008, 12:56:43 PM »

 understanding the imagery of the  two beasts and  the  relevent  verses opens  up  the  timewindow(november 2006---) which should  send  us  to  the multifront battlefield... the  sacraments,the  word, the  holy traditions...
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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2008, 01:43:15 PM »

Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic... Sad

Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia?

What is Schizophrenia from NAMI

1. I'm not diagnosing him or anyone else as being anything. I said maybe this person is schizophrenic because of these religious, nonsensical ramblings.

2. Yes, I know what schizophrenia is. Contrary to popular opinion, I often do think before I post. Wink

3. In the words of GabrieltheCelt: calm down. I meant no offense. Wink

Wink  I think what's most likely is Kron3 needs an outlet for someone to hear him.  *Shrugs*
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2008, 05:26:29 PM »

the  beast,the  mark,and the  current  economic crisis....... following  the  flow  of petrodollars  into  the  banking  system  from  the  soviet  breakup in 1991  and  understanding  the  maestro  role  of  the  aliyev  father/son  team around  the  caspian  sea  oil(ilkham heydar  aliyev 666),leads  us  to the credit/debit card which  is  held in  the  right  hand and  the interchangable  ss# which  is  often  in  memory...the  memory  is  stored  in  the frontal  part of  the  brain.. on  the  mind/forehead...in  addition,the petrodollars  were  released  to  all, but linked first at  the top to home  mortgage paper, knowing that  the  turks  were  going  to  drive up oil prices by  engaging  the  kurds just prior to  the  rfe oil  coming  on line  therby causing  the  cascade...and  finally  since  gog  and  magog(russia and  china) are  now  or  will both be  capitalist democracies , they  will rise  up  against  israel(jewish  influenced  western  banking) and the  nations(borrowers) of  israel, and this  money  is  not  coming  back... its back  in  the  petrofed  mansion and  will be  released to  the  east...
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2008, 09:43:07 PM »

I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2008, 01:04:45 AM »

I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.

But you probably signed the credit card application with your right hand! Blasphemy!! Grin
I wonder how many unholy frequent flyer miles and benefits you get with that card! Wink
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2008, 12:28:28 PM »

I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.
     its  not  a blueprint but rather  a revealing.....lefties  often  have  annoyances in  life.. an  atm machine with  a vertical  slot could  require  a lefty  to  go to  the  right hand.....
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