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it seems to so devilishly fit that the beast is the devolved energy business roughly starting with the establishment of the arabian concessions between the world wars and the bolshevik revolution...imagery symbols are like international highway signs.. less likely to lead to word arguments so its a good starting point to lead one into a sense of urgency..
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 09:35:48 PM » |
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the 7 heads represent the 7 sisters of the old standard oil monopoly that had their family reunion in the arabian peninsula in order to get the concession from the house of saud.... the heads are lionsheads as the lion is the symbol of britain.. british petroleum headed the consortium that established the conspiratorial covenent in 1994 around the caspian sea oil.. the sea which the beast rises forth from...
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Beware the Beast, Ukie....he's wearing a politician's suit: 
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Hey, while he's at it, he can use Kelsey Grammer too!
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2008, 03:39:30 PM » |
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the harlot that rides the beast is azerbajian as the father/son of perdition team(the ruling aliyev duo) maestroed the caspian sea oil which was the 1994 covenent(bp consortium buys the oil thus triggering the record bull run)and the 1999 confirmation of the covenent(same consortium buys the pipeline operatorship and footdrags construction thus triggering the record bear market).
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It's all so clear now!
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2008, 03:49:33 PM » |
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the harlot that rides the beast is azerbajian as the father/son of perdition team(the ruling aliyev duo) maestroed the caspian sea oil which was the 1994 covenent(bp consortium buys the oil thus triggering the record bull run)and the 1999 confirmation of the covenent(same consortium buys the pipeline operatorship and footdrags construction thus triggering the record bear market).
1. You've already started two other threads to flesh out your image of the Beast of Revelation. Rather than start a new thread for each part, why don't you just post each part as a subsequent post on the same one thread? 2. The general Free-for-All section is not to be used for posts. As per this thread, DO NOT POST IN THIS PARENT BOARD. USE THE SUBBOARDS., you need to post this in one of the Free-for-All child threads: Religious Topics or Non-Religious Topics.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2008, 06:26:29 PM » |
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the beast is as a leopard(changing oil prices/changing spots)as evidenced by the meve from 10 a barrel(1999) to 37 a barrel(the operatorship sale of the caspian oil)to 17 a barrel(the 1992 wounding of the beast in the form of a second chance imf loan into the russian far east) to 150 a barrel(starting with the1992 healing of the wound in the form of an agreement between saudi arabia and the oil oligarchs of russia to limit exports culminating in the turks slapping around the kurds in oil rich northern iraq)
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You know, until you've explained this divine wisdom, I never realized that Revelation was all about oil prices c. A.D. 2000. That would have made so much sense to the early Christians who placed it in the canon. 
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Oooh, how I looove conspiracy theories! YUM!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2008, 02:20:22 PM » |
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turkey was the original jihadist thrust so history is repeating itself as they take saddam hussein's place by stirring up the kurds in oilrich north iraq.. this began after the completion of the caspian pipeline(7 year tribulation)... they collect transit taxes that are based on the barrel price so they are like funding footsoldiers for jihad.... this panjihadist mindset is now completely formed in the sense that saudi arabia(bin ladin) is the paymaster.. egypt (zawahiri) the intelligence.. pakistan(islamic bomb) the muscle... and azerbajian(aliyev father/son) the harlot
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turkey was the original jihadist thrust so history is repeating itself as they take saddam hussein's place by stirring up the kurds in oilrich north iraq.. this began after the completion of the caspian pipeline(7 year tribulation)... they collect transit taxes that are based on the barrel price so they are like funding footsoldiers for jihad.... this panjihadist mindset is now completely formed in the sense that saudi arabia(bin ladin) is the paymaster.. egypt (zawahiri) the intelligence.. pakistan(islamic bomb) the muscle... and azerbajian(aliyev father/son) the harlot Friend, why are you talking politics in a religious forum? You can ask for permission to access the Politics forum and post whatever you want regarding Muslims, Turkey, oil and the end days ... just be prepared for a vigorous challenge. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2008, 02:39:22 PM » |
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upon the 7 lionsheads of the beast are 10 horns and upon those horns 10 crowns but why two seperate symbols for 10?(10 of the "historic" opec are islamic nations/crowns and the 10 horns symbolize the price goring or gouging of the infidel nations....also the feet of a bear would symbolize russian/soviet land/sea holdings around the caspian....
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2008, 02:58:37 PM » |
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and upon his head blasphamies( oil prices go up fast down slow..opec members "agreeing" to themselves.. peakoil...etc)and the dragon gave him his power(firebreathing oil fields that must burn off excess)and his seat gave him great authority(meetings in vienna).. who can make war upon the beast(what can we do we just have to pay it)...all will wonder after the beast(how many know why oil was 10 a barrel in 1998?)
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Interesting--rising oil prices are now blasphemy. They must be against the Second Ecumenical Council of Detroit.
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the second beast comes out of the earth(nation /america) as a two horned ( workable dualistic system of capitalism/democracy)lamb(america is young)and will serve the first oilbeast(the last three conflicts of kosovo,persian gulf1, persian gulf2 all have resulted in the preservation of the balancing act that the oilbeast enjoys namely that on one hand they don't want oilprices based on supply and demand pre1973 and on the other hand they dont want to lose control of the oil
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2008, 03:41:50 PM » |
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Kron, instead of posting a new thread each time, please just reply to this one. As it is, a moderator must come behind you and merge your posts into this thread anyway, so it would be helpful to us if you would post here instead. To do so, click on the topic, and near the right side above the first post and below the last one is a button marked "reply." Click on it, and then type your post.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2008, 03:52:02 PM » |
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the confirmation of the covenent with the many for 7( 1999 operatorship sale of the caspian oil which triggers the 7 year tribulation) leads to the daily blood sacrifice to israel(we use energy everyday/we die for oil) and the oil oligarchs of russia are jewish(christians control western oil and muslims control opec) which leads to the abomination(russian stock market drops as oil oligarch money goes to israel to rebuid the temple with military upgrades to protect against jihad) that causes desolation(armageddon)
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You know, until you've explained this divine wisdom, I never realized that Revelation was all about oil prices c. A.D. 2000. That would have made so much sense to the early Christians who placed it in the canon.  [/uqote]
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2008, 07:10:30 PM » |
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40 months after the confirmation of the covenent came the wounding of the beast(imf loan into russian far east oil that drove down oil prices) and the healing of the wound(saudi agreement with the multinational russian oil oligarchs to limit exports for 6 months thus reversing the downward movement in prices)
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2008, 07:24:53 PM » |
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the antichrist must come out of the oil business because energy encompases all the earthly realms(politics,economics religion).. only one man fits the bill ...the son of heydar aliyev whose full name is ilkham heydar aliyev... what could be more antichristian than a communist muslim who gains control of the worlds swingoil the way that business has been run since 1973... kron3, you've now been asked both informally and via a green-text request from a moderator to not start a new thread every time you want to post on this topic. Please confine posts on this topic to the thread you've already started.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2008, 07:34:32 PM » |
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the antichrist must come out of the oil business because energy encompases all the earthly realms(politics,economics religion).. only one man fits the bill ...the son of heydar aliyev whose full name is ilkham heydar aliyev... what could be more antichristian than a communist muslim who gains control of the worlds swingoil the way that business has been run since 1973...
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2008, 07:57:34 PM » |
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in 1998, 60 minutes did a show on azerbajian calling heydar the most powerful man in the world...when the soviet union fell apart azerbajian broke away and the old azer political family created a 10% stake in the consortium that footdragged the oil( the the 1994 covenant and the 1999 confirmation of the covenent with the many for 7).. this caspian oil logistically synched up with all the oil in northern iraq(the shared neighborhood of sadaam and the kurds that holds massive reserves that have been sat upon since ww2) and is what drove oil speculatively down to 10 a barrel in 1998.. remember the shootout in the armenian paliament when they announced that georgia would get the pipeline? this was due to sheverdnaze(the white fox) and his connections back to the russian oil oligarchs who control the north caspian...
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the beast is as a leopard(changing oil prices/changing spots) The metaphor is that "the leopard cannot change his spots". It actually comes from the Bible: "If the Ethiopian shall change his skin, or the leopardess her spots, then shall ye be able to do good having learnt evil." (Jeremiah 13:12) In other words, just as it is impossible for the leopard to change its spots, so it is impossible to do good through evil means. So you have used the exact opposite of a biblical metaphor to "prove" your case for your exegesis. Will you now accept that you don't know what you're talking about?
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2008, 10:54:37 PM » |
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Will you now accept that you don't know what you're talking about?
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That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge. We have to try. There is a soul at stake.
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2008, 05:38:54 PM » |
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as a baby leopard morphs into adulthood it changes its spots just as the oil business has changed(the 7 headed beast).. the second beast is a lamb because it has been corrupted by the first oil beast.. the lamb(america the young country) has two horns(capitalism and democracy) and it serves the first beast by preserving the balancing act(on one side keep the prices from being freemarket based pre 1973 and on the other side don't lose control of the oil)... and the second beast will perform miracles for the world to see.. will bring fire from the heavens to the earth(the recent world wide coverage of the amazing accomplishment of sending a craft to mars and having it launched back to earth).. also the turks have invaded northern iraq again because the oil prices are plummeting.. dr.rice said very little about this sovereign invasion compared to what the russians did in georgia who were merely tring to protect the baku pipeline by creating a buffer between jihadist chechnya/dagestan and the caspian beast... also, the euphrates related verse in the bible that binds turkey(pipeline transit taxes) and iraq(the slapping around of the kurds) is linked into the realm of 200 million(islamic population of pakistan,kashmir,and afghanistan) that the antichrist releases his 4 armies from that causes the armageddon against israel.. the 4 army/mindsets are zionism(the mo)ssad is set up in iran/pakistan)jihad,and the split american military(pat tillman fragging and sen liebermann supporting john mccain)
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as a baby leopard morphs into adulthood it changes its spots just as the oil business has changed(the 7 headed beast).. Now you're really clutching at straws. 
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OK, what are the trials and tribulations mankind has faced BEFORE all these prophecies come true?
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That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge. We have to try. There is a soul at stake. Ever tried reasoning with a fanatic? Lots of fun. 
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the stakes(trials and tribulations) are rising.. st john of kronstadt wrote that God is simple(God/thoughts..Son/words...Holy Spirit/deeds) so the devil is complex...an adversary who loves the endless arguments as seen in politics and the legal world... king abdullah is in afghanistan.. when the wahabbis get up to go somewhere take note for it portends big events.. the last time this happened was the healing of the beasts wound( the russian oil oligarch deal to limit exports in reaction to the second imf loan(wounding of the beast). now,however, the oil move is not a spec move, but real ,therefore more dangerous.. the russian far east oil is coming and the freezing weather keeps it from being manipulated.. a verse from the famous russian poem comes to mind .. when the sleigh begins to move it will pass all the others.. or in beastial terms, world supply is like an intersection with 4 stations all selling for 4 a gallon.. if one starts selling for three, all will follow ... but the bad news is that it took too long..long enough for the wahabbis and their allies to marshall up their resources, human and financial, to bait the primed pitbull israel who has rebuilt the temple with huge/sudden russian oil oligarch money(witness russian market selloff in last year).. oil money is blood money that slays the innocent.. an abomination to god.. the abomination that leads to desolation ...
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That may be an exercise in futility, ozgeorge. We have to try. There is a soul at stake. Ever tried reasoning with a fanatic? Lots of fun.  Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic... 
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Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic...  Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia? What is Schizophrenia from NAMI
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Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic...  Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia? What is Schizophrenia from NAMI1. I'm not diagnosing him or anyone else as being anything. I said maybe this person is schizophrenic because of these religious, nonsensical ramblings. 2. Yes, I know what schizophrenia is. Contrary to popular opinion, I often do think before I post.  3. In the words of GabrieltheCelt: calm down. I meant no offense. 
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2008, 06:53:46 PM » |
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profiling the harsh desert,islam"s birthplace, the limited amounts of grass and water produced two harsh fighting styles... one is that if you don't anniliate your enemy you are weak and two , if you're going down take your enemy with you.. the latter would apply to the modern jihad.. the wahabbis know that they're sword is being taken away from them for good now that the god controlled(cold) russian far east oil is online(65 dollar drop)..i look for osama bin ladin and/or dr. zawahiri to give themselves up or martyr themselves soon....
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understanding the imagery of the two beasts and the relevent verses opens up the timewindow(november 2006---) which should send us to the multifront battlefield... the sacraments,the word, the holy traditions...
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Maybe he's not a fanatic like Pat Robertson, but is medically schizophrenic...  Since you're going around diagnosing people with schizophrenia, do you know what is schizophrenia? What is Schizophrenia from NAMI1. I'm not diagnosing him or anyone else as being anything. I said maybe this person is schizophrenic because of these religious, nonsensical ramblings. 2. Yes, I know what schizophrenia is. Contrary to popular opinion, I often do think before I post.  3. In the words of GabrieltheCelt: calm down. I meant no offense.   I think what's most likely is Kron3 needs an outlet for someone to hear him. *Shrugs*
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2008, 05:26:29 PM » |
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the beast,the mark,and the current economic crisis....... following the flow of petrodollars into the banking system from the soviet breakup in 1991 and understanding the maestro role of the aliyev father/son team around the caspian sea oil(ilkham heydar aliyev 666),leads us to the credit/debit card which is held in the right hand and the interchangable ss# which is often in memory...the memory is stored in the frontal part of the brain.. on the mind/forehead...in addition,the petrodollars were released to all, but linked first at the top to home mortgage paper, knowing that the turks were going to drive up oil prices by engaging the kurds just prior to the rfe oil coming on line therby causing the cascade...and finally since gog and magog(russia and china) are now or will both be capitalist democracies , they will rise up against israel(jewish influenced western banking) and the nations(borrowers) of israel, and this money is not coming back... its back in the petrofed mansion and will be released to the east...
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2008, 09:43:07 PM » |
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I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2008, 01:04:45 AM » |
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I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.
But you probably signed the credit card application with your right hand! Blasphemy!!  I wonder how many unholy frequent flyer miles and benefits you get with that card! 
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kron3
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2008, 12:28:28 PM » |
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I hold my credit card in my left hand. Your theory is debunked.
its not a blueprint but rather a revealing.....lefties often have annoyances in life.. an atm machine with a vertical slot could require a lefty to go to the right hand.....
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