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Daughter's Cross...
« on: August 28, 2008, 06:07:31 PM »
Grace and Peace,

recently my daughter lost her Immaculate Metal... providence anyone?

Anyway I wanted to get her an Orthodox Cross to give to her when she's Chrismated into the Orthodox Church. Can anyone point me to a 'Child's Orthodox Cross'?

Thanks and God Bless.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 06:22:41 PM »
Grace and Peace,

recently my daughter lost her Immaculate Metal... providence anyone?

Anyway I wanted to get her an Orthodox Cross to give to her when she's Chrismated into the Orthodox Church. Can anyone point me to a 'Child's Orthodox Cross'?

Thanks and God Bless.

Unless she is really quite young, a Child's cross may be too small...
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 06:28:12 PM »
With my Godchildren, they have their gold baptismal Cross, but for everyday use, I got each of them a woven Cross made by monastics at my local monastery. This might be a good option with kids as they have a tendency to lose things! (I keep an extra supply on hand!) You can also buy them online:
http://www.athenshop.com/en/Komboskini_cross.asp#KomboskiniCross

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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 06:35:39 PM »
What is "too small"? My baptismal cross is a small (less than 3/4" long and very delicate), cheap, silver one I purchased in Kyiv in the event I should later become Orthodox. I bought it at a religious bookstore in the underground bookmarket on Ploschad' Slavy, beside the Hotel Salut. I personally prefer small, delicate crosses, but am now curious about what is "too small".

Oh, you just posted, ozgeorge! That's such a good idea! Very sturdy and practical.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 06:45:03 PM »
Too small = not much bigger than an adult fingernail.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 08:10:11 PM »
Too small = not much bigger than an adult fingernail.

Is this a personal preference, or is there actually such a rule in the Church? :-\
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 08:41:09 PM »
The really small ones are not real hardy. My 3 year old has nearly chewed hers in half, and she only wears it Sundays ::) I have been thinking about picking her up a larger version just so it isn't as mauled and malleable.

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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 08:47:39 PM »
What is "too small"? My baptismal cross is a small (less than 3/4" long and very delicate), cheap, silver one I purchased in Kyiv in the event I should later become Orthodox. I bought it at a religious bookstore in the underground bookmarket on Ploschad' Slavy, beside the Hotel Salut. I personally prefer small, delicate crosses, but am now curious about what is "too small".

Maybe this is more his style:



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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 09:01:51 PM »
LOL :D
Actually, I think there are more practical considerations as to why kid's Crosses shouldn't be small and delicate.
For instance, there is a reason why kid's toys are not usually made "small and delicate"! I made the mistake of getting my six year old Goddaughter a miniature china toy tea set for her birthday last year, and she loves it, but so far, I've had to replace it 4 times!
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 09:15:24 PM »
^^LOL

My granddaughters have reasonably small baptismal crosses; one a silver St Olga's which is about 3/4", the other a basic gold Latin cross of about the same length.

Rosehip,

As far as I know, there are no Church rules concerning cross size. It would be rather bizarre if there were, I think; especially when one considers the variety we have to choose from. :)
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 09:42:26 PM »
^^ Whew. LOL! You saved my day, Riddi!

Greeki, that pic made me laugh and reminded me of a date I had last year with a non-orthodox guy. We got started on religion and it turned out he had actually seen my priest about town several times! He told me he was concerned about  the size of the priest's cross and had wanted to inform the priest he was guilty of the sin of religious "bling". Sigh. Oh well.

How old is your daughter, Ignatius, if I may ask? That might aid the discussion.

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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 09:45:21 PM »
He told me he was concerned about  the size of the priest's cross and had wanted to inform the priest he was guilty of the sin of religious "bling". Sigh. Oh well.

LoL, wow.  That's a new one.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 09:56:56 PM »
Is this a personal preference, or is there actually such a rule in the Church? :-\

The smaller, the less sturdy. No rules involved, just practicality.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 01:59:04 AM »
Another consideration: Many small children I know have a gold or silver baptismal cross of whatever size, but, instead of a chain, the cross is worn on a narrow ribbon. The soft ribbon is comfortable for little ones, and no risk of breaking an expensive chain. Once the child is old enough (and less destructive!), the cross is worn on a chain as usual.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 02:04:35 AM »
A safety pin is good too.

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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2008, 12:24:52 PM »
^^ Whew. LOL! You saved my day, Riddi!

Greeki, that pic made me laugh and reminded me of a date I had last year with a non-orthodox guy. We got started on religion and it turned out he had actually seen my priest about town several times! He told me he was concerned about  the size of the priest's cross and had wanted to inform the priest he was guilty of the sin of religious "bling". Sigh. Oh well.

How old is your daughter, Ignatius, if I may ask? That might aid the discussion.



My daughter is 6 years old. Her Miraculous Metal was 'child sized' and we've had to replace it once already. Our Catholic Godparents bought it for her. She wears it 'all the time' so she's sad she doesn't have it. We're sure she lost it when she was with her cousins playing at a playground. I'm fine with purchasing a couple because I know she likes wearing her religious jewelry.
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2008, 08:25:21 PM »
Why not let her pick what she likes. I sat with my elder granddaughter and went through the crosses they had at St Necktarios Press. My daughter and her husband also picked their baptismal crosses from there. Here is the link if you are interested  - http://www.orthodoxpress.org/catalog/crosses.htm
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Re: Daughter's Cross...
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2008, 09:16:04 AM »
After 5 kids and 8 grandkids, I recommend the safety pin at least until about 3-4 to keep the cross with the child and not being used as a play thing.  From about 4-8 I recommend a cross with a cord, especially with boys, it seems to hold up better, after  8 a cord or chain works ok.

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