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Offline 88Devin12

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Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« on: August 16, 2008, 05:56:24 PM »
I've been reading Genesis (probably for the 10 millionth time) and was reading the Orthodox commentary on it.

I also had read about the Jewish interpretations of how long ago it was and what they base their dates on. As a former Protestant, I also remember believing in the dates both literally and not literally.

However a statement caught my eye:

"This passage focuses on the genealogy of Christ and the reality of death and decay in the grave"

This passage therefore, may not have been put in the scriptures for the purpose of historical accuracy or dating, but to show Christ's genealogy (which would be pointed out in the New Testament). Thus would it not have been necessary to put ALL the fathers and sons in there? But rather put some so that his genealogy could be accurately traced/displayed?

Example... I was able to trace one branch of my ancestry back to the 1300s... However why would I have to list all the many ancestors leading to then, rather, could you just list some and still have an accurate list of your genealogy?

If this is so, then why is it necessary for us to try and directly trace the age of things through the numbers in Genesis? If humans indeed did exist over 200,000 years ago. Then why would the writer of Genesis list ALL the human ancestors from 200,000 years (assuming that may be when Adam was created) to the days of Noah?

However my goal here is NOT to detirmine the age of humans or the age of earth, as IMO that is not something that is important for us to know. But I'm just trying to see if my interpretation is correct.
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Re: Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 06:38:47 PM »
This passage therefore, may not have been put in the scriptures for the purpose of historical accuracy or dating, but to show Christ's genealogy (which would be pointed out in the New Testament). Thus would it not have been necessary to put ALL the fathers and sons in there? But rather put some so that his genealogy could be accurately traced/displayed?

Yes, it's not necessary to put all the "fathers and sons" in, because the aim is simply to show that someone is a descendant of Jewish ancestry. Using your own example  of your family tree which you have traced back to the 1300's, say for argument's sake that your ancestors in th 14th century were Danes, you would say that you are of Danish descent; however, it is taken as given that you 13th century ancestors were Danes- you haven't "proved" it by drawing up their own genealogical tree.
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Re: Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 08:10:15 PM »
Recall that Noah and His family were the only survivors of the flood and the descendants of the Covenant came through Shem (who obeyed and remained loyal to Noah) rather than Ham (father of Canaan) since Shem and Japheth didn't see Noah's nakedness.

Genesis mentions the righteous Patriarchs between Adam and Noah to set up Christ being the literal Son of God and the new Adam.

The icon of the Resurrection shows some of those descendants of Christ like the noble Abel, Kings David & Solomon, Noah and Adam & Eve.


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Re: Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 12:39:35 PM »
why is it necessary for us to try and directly trace the age of things through the numbers in Genesis?

If you ask me, I'll plainly say, "it isn't." The Bible is ripe with allegories, symbolism and mythology. There is no deed, nor there ever was one, to use it as a textbook of history or, broadly, as a source of factual material.
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Re: Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 09:42:27 PM »
If you ask me, I'll plainly say, "it isn't." The Bible is ripe with allegories, symbolism and mythology. There is no deed, nor there ever was one, to use it as a textbook of history or, broadly, as a source of factual material.

Brother I used to think like that but I believe there is a danger in this type of mindset. I now don't take a position and just say read genesis for what it is teaching instead of saying 100% allegory or 100% true.
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Re: Genesis, Adam and the generations after...
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2008, 10:09:04 PM »
Example... I was able to trace one branch of my ancestry back to the 1300s... However why would I have to list all the many ancestors leading to then, rather, could you just list some and still have an accurate list of your genealogy?

As a hobby genealogist, no you can't. ;)
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