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Kooks II
« on: August 07, 2003, 04:45:57 PM »

Trooper: Breast-Feeding Driver Had Homemade ID

Thursday, August 07, 2003

RAVENNA, Ohio  — A woman who was breast-feeding her baby while driving had what appeared to be a homemade Pennsylvania identification card instead of a driver's license when she was pulled over, a state trooper testified Thursday.

Catherine Nicole Donkers — a member of an obscure religious sect who maintains that driver's licenses should not be required — described the card as an affidavit, Sgt. Michael A. Harmon said.

Donkers, 29, was charged with driving without a license, along with several other misdemeanors, after being pulled over May 8 on the Ohio Turnpike. State police pursued her for several miles before she stopped, and she insisted on speaking to her husband before cooperating.

Among the other charges facing Donkers, 29, are child endangerment and failure to obey a police officer. She acknowledges breast-feeding while driving and says she did nothing wrong.

Her husband, Brad Lee Barnhill, who was expected to testify later Thursday, was denied his request to stand in for his wife at the trial. They say their religious group requires Barnhill to be responsible for punishing Donkers.

"I directed her to do everything she did that day. ... Under our faith, she obeys me," he said during a break.

The couple — who lack a marriage license but claim to be married — belong to the First Christian Fellowship for Eternal Sovereignty (search), a religious group with a history of challenging the government.

The organization, which pledges allegiance to Jesus Christ, was founded in Henderson, Nev., in the 1990s. Barnhill says he is a minister in the fellowship with 650 followers.

He said he and his wife were living temporarily in Pittsburgh for work, but Donkers was a resident of Livonia, Mich., when arrested.

A conviction for misdemeanor child endangerment carries a maximum penalty of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

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Re:Kooks II
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2003, 05:06:43 PM »
Erk!!  also cringe.  Even a slower fender bender would have had the baby badly hurt between the woman and the steering wheel, if not killed.  I know my physics.  And the husband instructs and punishes?!?   ???  I fear for the child as she/he gets older.

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2003, 05:17:59 PM »
Yup, they're kooks.

So, where what the Kooks I thread?

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2003, 05:30:17 PM »
KOOKS I  should be the thread about the driver who sideswiped the car in which Baby Caroline was being driven by her Mom.

He will get over it in time - she won't.

Kooks II reminded me too clearly of the stupidity of some folk
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2003, 05:41:39 PM »
And the husband instructs and punishes?!?

Now wait a minute! That was the only part of the story that sounded right to me!  :-*
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2003, 06:12:44 PM »
MEN
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2003, 08:50:48 PM »
And the husband instructs and punishes?!?

Now wait a minute! That was the only part of the story that sounded right to me!  :-*

Dear Tom,

Verily, that was the most sensible thing said in this whole thread.  :P :P
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2003, 10:58:23 PM »
My wife and I have a share-all relationship....I like to instruct her then she punishes me for telling her what to do. ;-)
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2003, 11:52:52 PM »
Wait to your 26th year of married bliss, that will change, with alot of "other" stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 11:46:13 AM »
slave,
could you provide a link then to the Kooks I thread?  (I'm assuming it's on this board).

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 11:55:12 AM »
sorry - my sense of misplaced humour :(

I did not start Kooks I and it's not on this board , but Baby Caroline does exist - on the "Other Board "
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