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« on: July 18, 2008, 02:44:24 PM »

This article discusses a study showing background television can disrupt normal play in young children.  I myself came from a family which constantly had the TV blaring in the background and I think I turned out hey look, a squirrel.   Grin  Just kidding.  Seriously, though, I wonder how long it will take for new research to say background television stimulates brain activity in small children.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2008, 04:07:45 PM »

That's about right. We're always looking for someone or something to blame for all our problems, so a scientist who posts a doomsday article is bound to get published. Since those in the academic world must "publish or perish," these sorts of experiments are a quick way to get funding for more serious science.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 04:19:08 PM »

Interesting position on this from the both of you Smiley Smiley Smiley 
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 04:46:23 PM »

Funny this came up today.  We don't let our kids watch TV except for movies on Sunday afternoons and earlier today we were at my in-laws house.  Myself and my two oldest children, 7 and 8 were sitting in the living room reading with the new bigscreen TV off.  Granddad came in and half-joking but with a degree of being serious said, "no TV, aren't you guys bored?"  Both of my children looked up from their books and in a sort of bothered way said, "no", then went back to their reading.  Which they did for the next few hours.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 05:22:46 PM »

Good for you! Always good to get the kids buried in a book.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 05:35:35 PM »

That's about right. We're always looking for someone or something to blame for all our problems, so a scientist who posts a doomsday article is bound to get published. Since those in the academic world must "publish or perish," these sorts of experiments are a quick way to get funding for more serious science.
You and Mrs. Y are the only married couple I know who converse with each other on an internet forum.  I sure hope y'all aren't sitting across from one another at the living room table staring at open laptops.  Cheesy Cheesy  Just teasin' y'all. Wink

Seriously though, I think there *might* be something to the article.  I mean, I wonder how much stimulous is healthy/unhealthy?  I remember hearing a conversation on a Christian radio program where there was a Christian psychiatrist explaining that children today are bombarded with too much stimulous.  One of the examples he gave was movies.  Children usually like action movies, but the movies that are cranked out today (besides the content) are, more often than not, a visual assault he said.  I'm not a scientist, father, sociogist or any other academic professional (so don't attack me!!), but my gut tells me there's probably something to this.  I realize that parents want the best for their children, but children seem to be amazingly self-starting all by themselves.  At least that's the case when watching me nieces and nephews.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 06:06:41 PM »

You and Mrs. Y are the only married couple I know who converse with each other on an internet forum.  I sure hope y'all aren't sitting across from one another at the living room table staring at open laptops.  Cheesy Cheesy  Just teasin' y'all. Wink
Nah, we take turns at the computer desk. Wink

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Children usually like action movies, but the movies that are cranked out today (besides the content) are, more often than not, a visual assault he said.  I'm not a scientist, father, sociogist or any other academic professional (so don't attack me!!), but my gut tells me there's probably something to this.  I realize that parents want the best for their children, but children seem to be amazingly self-starting all by themselves.  At least that's the case when watching me nieces and nephews.
Well, as a father and academic professional with some training in sociology and psychology, I can see some merit to this. I have noticed that kids are increasingly often trained to multitask, and this training carries over to movies. Kids love the movies that have a lot going on, movies to which one must pay close attention and scrutinize every detail. Modern movies cater to this, since the producers understand that teenagers have the largest expendable income of any age bracket.

I would like to see a scientific study rather than the musings of a Christian psychiatrist (and I hope you are not listening to James Dobson) on a radio program, but it's interesting to think about at least.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 06:25:54 PM »

Nah, we take turns at the computer desk. Wink
Well, as a father and academic professional with some training in sociology and psychology, I can see some merit to this. I have noticed that kids are increasingly often trained to multitask, and this training carries over to movies. Kids love the movies that have a lot going on, movies to which one must pay close attention and scrutinize every detail. Modern movies cater to this, since the producers understand that teenagers have the largest expendable income of any age bracket.

I would like to see a scientific study rather than the musings of a Christian psychiatrist (and I hope you are not listening to James Dobson) on a radio program, but it's interesting to think about at least.

Teenagers don't actually HAVE the disposable income.  Their parents HAVE the money and give it to the kids. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2008, 06:29:20 PM »

Well, as a father and academic professional with some training in sociology and psychology,

You sell yourself way too short, broham.  Kiss

I would like to see a scientific study rather than the musings of a Christian psychiatrist (and I hope you are not listening to James Dobson)
Musings?  First, it's Dr. James Dobson and second, last time I checked a PhD. trumped a Bachelors.  Just sayin'... Wink

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Dobson was for 14 years an Associate Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Southern California School of Medicine, and served for 17 years on the Attending Staff of Children's Hospital of Los Angeles in the Division of Child Development and Medical Genetics. He has an earned Ph.D. from the University of Southern California (1967) in the field of child development. He is a licensed psychologist in the state of California and a licensed marriage, family and child counselor in both California and Colorado. He is listed in Who's Who in Medicine and Healthcare.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2008, 06:31:51 PM »

Some PhD's should be trusted about as far as they can be thrown... Wink
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2008, 06:36:37 PM »

Some PhD's should be trusted about as far as they can be thrown... Wink
True, but if everyone's suspect, who you gonna trust?  By what standard does one judge anothers qualifications?
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 08:36:17 PM »

Actually there are inumerable studies on how detrimental more than 1-2 hours of television is for kids. The AAP actually suggest absolutely no television before age two. Which will make the whole Baby Einstein franchise go bankrupt Roll Eyes

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;107/2/423
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2008, 09:02:24 PM »

Teenagers don't actually HAVE the disposable income.  Their parents HAVE the money and give it to the kids. 
Not necessarily. Some have jobs of their own and earn their money.

Musings?  First, it's Dr. James Dobson and second, last time I checked a PhD. trumped a Bachelors.  Just sayin'... Wink
Last I heard, doctors don't go telling their patients to beat up their kids in the name of Jesus. Just sayin'... Grin
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 09:02:47 PM »

All that said, I still have used Baby Einstein to get a shower by myself on occasion. With my husband gone that is my only option for a shower to myself. If only my 6,3 and 1 year old all could nap everyday at the same time!
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 09:11:36 PM »

Not necessarily. Some have jobs of their own and earn their money.
Last I heard, doctors don't go telling their patients to beat up their kids in the name of Jesus. Just sayin'... Grin

Some teens work, many don't. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2008, 09:16:27 PM »

Some teens work, many don't. 
Yes. The fact remains that teenagers do spend a lot of money on entertainment, so a lot of entertainment is designed for them.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2008, 05:23:54 PM »

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http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,16901.0.html

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 06:11:19 PM »

While I think a person who doesn't have children giving advise on raising them is like a mechanic who has never had a car, I am going to throw in my two cents...
I have just read a fantastic book called "Born to Buy" by Juliet B. Schor.  She talks about the way advertising affects children, using a lot of research done on her own as well as other sources (there are 38 pages in the back citing references and resources)  I don't know if I could really do justice to all the points she makes, but she makes big connections to exposure to television, especially the advertising, with feelings of anxiety, depression, and all those things people like to blame on the media Wink.  While a child may not be actively watching the TV, he or she could still be exposed to the commercials or see something that may not be age appropriate, even in a few seconds...
While I too, was raised with background TV, I don't think it will be something I will choose to expose my children to.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 06:16:04 PM »

Funny this came up today.  We don't let our kids watch TV except for movies on Sunday afternoons and earlier today we were at my in-laws house.  Myself and my two oldest children, 7 and 8 were sitting in the living room reading with the new bigscreen TV off.  Granddad came in and half-joking but with a degree of being serious said, "no TV, aren't you guys bored?"  Both of my children looked up from their books and in a sort of bothered way said, "no", then went back to their reading.  Which they did for the next few hours.

How do you get your kids to obey the "no TV except for Sunday Afternoon" rule? Shocked
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »

They've grown up with it so its not hard.  They all started reading young, all of them have been in sports like gymnastics, football, soccer, etc., they all play an instrument, and they learned early to use their imagination drawing, playing, etc. They basically get up and play and don't think to complain.  They might ask to watch a movie or whine on occasion, but its short lived. 

The downside, our home is a madhouse.  As I type this I can hear the piano playing, the football being thrown against something, two of my girls shaking the floor doing gymnastics, and my wife chasing the two little ones.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2009, 12:16:48 PM »

Actually there are inumerable studies on how detrimental more than 1-2 hours of television is for kids. The AAP actually suggest absolutely no television before age two. Which will make the whole Baby Einstein franchise go bankrupt Roll Eyes

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2009, 04:44:37 PM »

I wonder if the same can be said for "background music"?  How many of us do anything, from washing dishes to talking on the phone to reading to whatever with an ipod going or are home stereo blasting away?  Would such also be bad for kids?  So much for those studies which suggested that listening to Mozart would actually make you smarter?
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You're just trying to scare me, aren't you? Wink We play music for our girls all night, every night. Everything from lullabyes to classical.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2009, 04:57:51 PM »

I don't know about music making one smarter just by listening to it, but here is a study by a doctor at the University of London describing a study she did in which a small group of kids with "emotional and behavioral difficulties" appeared to calm down when soothing music was played in the classroom.  To some degree, if the kids are calmer they're more likely to learn.

To me, there's a big difference in how we process music versus television.  Sure, they can both be background noise but with music there isn't as much to distract you (like commercials that are significantly louder than regular programming and built-in laugh tracks) from the task at hand. 
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2009, 03:32:46 PM »

While I think a person who doesn't have children giving advise on raising them is like a mechanic who has never had a car, I am going to throw in my two cents...

If your points are made with wisdom and understanding, it's more like taking marriage advice from a celibate Saint (like St. John Chrysostom...).
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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2009, 01:35:53 AM »

I don't know about music making one smarter just by listening to it,

Actually, the research I have read says that music helps facilitate the formation of neuronal pathways.
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Neuronal connections in the brain of the infant and young child are formed through experiences and strengthened through repetitions until predictable pathways of cognitive processing are established. Once these pathways are formed, it is as though they are hardwired and cannot be changed without much effort. Music and rhythm is essential to the developing brain as it helps to create and strengthen more neural connections that allow for auditory processing. The act of processing music stimuli elaborates these neural connections in the brain, influencing processing quality of auditory stimuli over the lifetime.

Here is a link to the article from which that quote originated:
http://www.naturalnews.com/024286.html
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2009, 11:16:03 AM »

Interesting, thanks!
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