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Orarion?
« on: June 29, 2008, 10:57:22 PM »
This is what I assume is a simple question but one that I can't find an answer to. Why does the deacon unfasten the orarion and cross it over his chest and back during the Lords Prayer?



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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 11:32:02 PM »
To get it out of the way
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 11:47:55 PM »
Quote from: Paisius on June 29, 2008, 10:57:22 PM
This is what I assume is a simple question but one that I can't find an answer to. Why does the deacon unfasten the orarion and cross it over his chest and back during the Lords Prayer?

Such crossing only occurs during Holy Communion.  From St. Tikhon's site:

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Whereas the Sub-Deacon always wears his Orarion crossed, the Deacon, for the most part, wears his on his left shoulder, only crossing them at the time of the Communion of the clergy and the faithful. The Orarion is the Deacon's principal vestment, without which he cannot serve at any service whatever. In ancient times Deacons used to wipe the lips of communicants after they had partaken of the Holy Gifts.

In addition to the Orarion, the Deacon also wears the Cuffs (as do the Priests and Bishops) for convenience during services and also to remind him that he must not put his trust in his own strength alone, but in the right hand of the Almighty God
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 12:01:30 AM »
Quote from: arimethea on June 29, 2008, 11:32:02 PM
To get it out of the way
Sometimes it really is just the simple answer I guess.  ;)


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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 04:24:34 AM »
Quote from: Paisius on June 30, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
Sometimes it really is just the simple answer I guess.  ;)


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lol yeah definately man. I am always like this because I think every movement is symbolic of something else but sometimes its as dull as that.
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 10:37:36 AM »
According to the rubrics, it is done to resemble angel wings.
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
Forum search is a nice feature. Just wanted to ask the same question.

BTW it looks silly with orarions specially sewn to be worn doubled.
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 08:46:23 PM »
Quote from: Nigula Qian Zishi on June 30, 2008, 10:37:36 AM
According to the rubrics, it is done to resemble angel wings.

On deacons vestment in Russian Churches, you often see Seraphim depicted.
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Re: Orarion?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 09:39:16 PM »
Quote from: Paisius on June 30, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
Quote from: arimethea on June 29, 2008, 11:32:02 PM
To get it out of the way
Sometimes it really is just the simple answer I guess.  ;)


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Simple?!
Is OUTRAGE!
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