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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2008, 12:05:42 AM » |
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Umm, Arimathea, gold may be the correct vestment colour for Palm Sunday in the Greek church, but not in the Russian. Green is the colour of vestments and drapes for Palm Sunday, Pentecost, and for the feasts of prophets and holy fools. Trust me.
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« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2008, 12:09:30 AM » |
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I saw the sarcasm in his post all tight, Peter, but the point about the vestment colour was one I simply had to make, grumpy old soul that I am ....  |
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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2008, 09:37:11 AM » |
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Umm, Arimathea, gold may be the correct vestment colour for Palm Sunday in the Greek church, but not in the Russian. Green is the colour of vestments and drapes for Palm Sunday, Pentecost, and for the feasts of prophets and holy fools. Trust me.
Why should I trust you? You are posting in this thread so I can't take you seriously because this thread must be a joke. You claim green is the color for Prophets and Palm Sunday so you do not go along with the ancient traditions of the church. Green for these feast are very modern innovations. Even more modern then pews in the church. So using green vestments for these feast are ok but pews are not. It is enough to make ones head explode. |
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2009, 12:07:36 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon?
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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2009, 02:31:42 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon? They sit the whole time. In fact, most times they just lay down on the pews and sleep. |
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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2009, 03:41:23 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon?
Most people in Greek parishes tend to sit during the litanies and during the Communion of the clergy, when the doors of the iconostasis are shut, but you'll also find a number of people (at least in the UK) who stand throughout. |
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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2009, 03:44:55 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon? They sit the whole time. In fact, most times they just lay down on the pews and sleep. I haven't caught the joke. |
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« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2009, 04:05:37 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon? They sit the whole time. In fact, most times they just lay down on the pews and sleep. I haven't caught the joke. That's because if there was one, it is pretty bad. |
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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2009, 05:38:52 PM » |
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During what moments do you (GOAs and AOAs) sit during the Divine Liturgy apart from Epistle and sermon? Most people in Greek parishes tend to sit during the litanies and during the Communion of the clergy, when the doors of the iconostasis are shut, but you'll also find a number of people (at least in the UK) who stand throughout. Eh, it's a regional practice. In the US, in most of the printed books, directions tell people to sit (a) during the great litany after the commemoration of the bishop, throughout the antiphons, until the third antiphon and entrance; (b) during the Epistle; (c) during the Sermon; (d) during the completion litany after the Great Entrance. |
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« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2009, 07:13:22 PM » |
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ACROD also has similar sit/stand/kneel rules. I ignore them all and just stand unless it's a weekday Divine Liturgy (or Pre-sanctified). My GOA parish prints the rules above, but half of us just stand anyway...not bad for Greeks.  |
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« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2009, 08:47:57 PM » |
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That's because if there was one, it is pretty bad. Guilty as charged! |
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« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2009, 09:21:15 PM » |
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ACROD also has similar sit/stand/kneel rules. I ignore them all and just stand unless it's a weekday Divine Liturgy (or Pre-sanctified). My GOA parish prints the rules above, but half of us just stand anyway...not bad for Greeks. Not bad at all. I preferred our outlook at Seminary: stand when you can, sit when you need to, (on weekdays) kneel when moved to; but have the good sense to stand at some appropriate places (like the Gospel reading). |
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« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2009, 09:39:21 PM » |
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My sister goes to the Greek Cathedral in Richmond, VA. She says they have lights on the iconostasis that light up when people are supposed to stand, and go off when they are supposed to sit.  |
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« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2009, 10:05:56 PM » |
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Supplementing "cleveland's" #53,
it's also common in GOAA parishes to sit after the blessing after "It is truly meet...," "May the Mercy of our Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, be with you," and return to standing for the recitation of The Lord's Parayer.
As to Reply #57, the oldest GOAA parish in Cleveland, Ohio has electric candle lights on either side of the Royal Entrance of the Icon Screen, which a previous presiding priest installed many years ago, when he implemented order in a rather unruly congregation, for "stand/sit" guidance; however, his successor did not use those lights for that purpose.
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« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2009, 10:06:30 PM » |
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There are some chairs around in my church, but it's a small parish, and almost exclusively converts with only a few exceptions. All of the "ethnic" parishes in the city have pews. People stand quite a bit during the liturgy, but only those of us in our twenties and maybe thirties stand the whole time. The high-schoolers are too bored to stand when they don't have too, and I am sympathetic for the older ones in the parish. They deserve to sit sometimes! They are older!
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