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Offline Entscheidungsproblem

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Judge overturns a father's punishment
« on: June 19, 2008, 06:07:26 PM »
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OTTAWA (AFP) - A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl's grounding, overturning her father's punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.

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Absolutely unbelievable.  Her punishment from her father wasn't even that harsh.  She should have had my parents, LOL.   :laugh:
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 06:37:19 PM »
This reads like an Onion article. I wonder how long it will take before this starts happening in the USA (if it hasn't already that is).

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 07:39:01 PM »
Was the school trip necessary for a grade?
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 07:44:46 PM »
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Absolutely unbelievable.  Her punishment from her father wasn't even that harsh.  She should have had my parents, LOL.   :laugh:

Fruil my dad would have been alright with it if I went to the courts to overrule him .......... being allowed back in to the house would have been another story.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 07:55:05 PM »
Was the school trip necessary for a grade?

I doubt it since most school boards don't allow field trips to count for marks since some students' financial situations might not allow for them to attend.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 07:55:56 PM »
This reads like an Onion article.
That's because it  basically is one.
This "News article" is yet more beat-up & hype which spreads like wildfire thanks to the intergossipnet.
If you look at the original news source, you will find that this girl's parents are divorced and when the father imposed the punishment, the girl ran off to her mother who, it can be assumed, did not support the father's punishment. This is about two spatting divorcees.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 08:19:16 PM »
A ten-year custody battle. That's much more than any child should have to bear.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 11:13:11 PM »
A ten-year custody battle. That's much more than any child should have to bear.

Absolutely, and for virtually her entire life. If the child is "confused", look at the adults in her life. Very sad state of affairs.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 12:20:04 AM »
Personally, I think the father should have served a few months in jail for attempted censorship.

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 04:29:07 AM »
Gic; you are really trying hard to be shocking aren't you? It actually becomes quite comical after awhile.

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 07:52:04 AM »
Personally, I think the father should have served a few months in jail for attempted censorship.

Greeki, take a trip to juvenile court.  Your methods of child rearing have been tried, and you can view the results there.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 07:57:53 AM »
Greeki, take a trip to juvenile court.  Your methods of child rearing have been tried, and you can view the results there.

But that might involve employing his beloved solid scientific research...oh, my  :o
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 09:30:48 AM »
^ ROFL! I'm glad I waited until after I read this to sip my tea!
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 10:07:47 AM »
Gic; you are really trying hard to be shocking aren't you? It actually becomes quite comical after awhile.

Actually I'm just making two points at once, first that censorship is wrong, period. Secondly, that parents who try to insulate their children and protect them from the world are just bad parents, from the sounds of it this guy isn't mature or responsible enough to make decisions in regard to his daughter. The court was right in siding with the more reasonable mother.

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 10:24:55 AM »
But that might involve employing his beloved solid scientific research...oh, my  :o

Taking a field trip and viewing a few select cases consitutes scientific research in your mind? Wow...I guess standards really have dropped. If some one wants to make a claim about what works and what doesn't, why not give me a research paper with some real substance, like a correlation between certain childhood experiences and future economic success? Instead a field trip to see a few select cases is suggested, without any regard for individual psychology, individual biology, early childhood experience, etc. ::)

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2008, 10:51:10 AM »
Forgive my ignorance of judicial systems, but does this need to be something the courts get into in the first place?  Messy divorce aside, this just sounds ridiculous for any judge to step in with a ruling.  I wouldn't consider this a case of censorship, either.  The girl is posting photos of herself on a dating site when she's twelve years old.  Most sites require you to be thirteen and certainly she shouldn't be on a dating page anyway.  I don't think her father is wrong to keep her off the internet if she's exhibiting behavior that could threaten her safety.  Hopefully her parents will realize what their bickering is doing to their child.
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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2008, 11:13:22 AM »
^ A High Conflict Individual only cares about his/herself while claiming to care about other people.  I think I posted a link to the High Conflict Institute in a past thread.  Basically, these individuals have one (or more) of four personality disorders:

Narcissism - seen in men
Borderline Personality Disorder - seen in women
Histrionic Personality Disorder
Dependent Personality Disorder

The laws in Quebec are different than those of the US.  The following case study can shine some light on the matter:

High Conflict Divorce or Stalking by Way of Family Court? The Empowerment of a Wealthy Abuser in Family Court Litigation

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2008, 02:28:07 PM »
you know that this was basically written off as a ill-reported happening and yet it is spiraling into debate.  Let's keep this civil and not debate parenting here -username! section moderator

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 02:43:41 PM »
^ Take the 11 or 12 replies and spin them off to another thread because the original "ill-reported" article discussion stopped after the 3rd or 4th reply.

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Re: Judge overturns a father's punishment
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2008, 04:03:44 PM »
Taking a field trip and viewing a few select cases consitutes scientific research in your mind? Wow...I guess standards really have dropped. If some one wants to make a claim about what works and what doesn't, why not give me a research paper with some real substance, like a correlation between certain childhood experiences and future economic success? Instead a field trip to see a few select cases is suggested, without any regard for individual psychology, individual biology, early childhood experience, etc. ::)
Where did I state that? Nice try, NotGreek&NotChristian.
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