For my own part, I don't equate fundamentalist with conservative. I think that is a major issue over on the other thread: people are approaching the discussion with different definitions of fundamentalism in mind. I would also say that fundamentals are important, and that we should give liberally. Yet I would agree with both parties in that neither fundamentalism nor liberalism has a place in Orthodoxy. It all depends on how you are using the terms
Forgive me if I do not correctly read your intent, but you seem to be missing the entire thrust of Ozgeorge's argument in the other thread, although somehow you acknowledge that he makes good points too. Orthodoxy is neither liberal nor conservative. Do you assume that it is conservative, because it is "traditional"? This is an error made by many, IMHO. Genuine Tradition has little to do with a political stance. One way that it can be referred to is as the life of the Holy Spirit in the Church. So it is dynamic and organic and changing, as well as remaining the same at all times, and of course transcends any kind of antinomy that we may care to apply to it as well. To equate Tradition with conservatism is quite erroneous and misses the point.
Excellent posts and very helpful.
I hope I don't give offence here, but I have an observation; probably one that has been made before. I'm going to focus on adult converts with this observation, though I have witnessed what ozgeorge points out as simplistic thinking in cradle converts, too. So I'm not singling adult converts out, it's just that as an adult convert myself, I feel sort of more qualified to speak about us.
From what I have observed of adult converts no matter how hard we try we can't help but carry with us a certain amount of baggage from our previous religious position; whatever that be. And it seems that it's not unreasonable that this should be the case for at least some time, but however painful it might be for us to give up our old way of thinking it's something that eventually we need to do.
It seems that many of us on OC.net have come to Orthodoxy from conservative backgrounds and rather than changing our mindset we cling to conservatism as if it is the be all and end all of all things; in such a way that it actually prevents us from acquiring the mindset that is necessary for us to liberate ourselves from such labels as "conservative" and "liberal", and to actually embrace Tradition in such a way that we see the lack of charity in labelling other people. IMO, Pravoslavbob's point that "Tradition doesn't equate with conservatism" is a mantra that needs to be practiced until we get the point.
We may not like the questions asked or the opinions of others on the forum, but being free to ask any question, make any comment about that which is not dogma is a freedom that Orthodoxy gives each of us. I know that I rejoice in having thrown off the shackles of "conservatism" and found a faith that delights my own inquisitive nature. I believe that if we stop inquiring, stop discussing awkward topics, we stop growing and we spend our lives in a mental rut. And always being right, can be a lonely business.
Asteriktos is right IMO; fundamentalism nor liberalism (nor conservatism) have a place in Orthodoxy.