From Hypo-Ortho: Benjamin, we are trying to be polite to you, but bear in mind that you are in an Orthodox Christian forum propagating heretical beliefs from our standpoint. Further posts of this type will not be tolerated, even in the "Unmoderated Forum."
Hypo-Ortho, I stand in awe that conversation about masturbation and the sex lives of women is encouraged, but my testimony about Christ will not be "tolerated". I didn't come here to spread heresy, but to make a rebuttal to the opening post in this public thread that called my Friend a wacko. I simply wanted to ask how he knew that, because it was clear he had made a judgment based on his religious prejudice, as most of you have done. I am intimately acquainted with Michael Travesser, and I can say that you stand in error. You are shooting at your own imagination about him.
Please be aware, friends, that devout, religious people have burned free-thinking men who history later made into saints. They will have to answer to God for that. Please permit me to answer a few more points that have been addressed here, and I will intrude no longer.
From anastasios: We experience Christ every time we receive him physically in the Eucharist.
With all due respect, sir, I have never seen anyone changed by eating a cracker in a church. They go home as lustful and selfish as they came. Deliverance from sin requires a death to self that, before Michael came, I had not imagined in my most lucid moments. Some of your saints have written about this fact. When self is dead, then we experience Christ. This is what Michael has, and this is what he wants you to have. He doesn't want your worship or adoration. He doesn't want followers, except those who follow his Spirit which lives inside of them.
Some of these things, as well as what a false christ is, is clearly laid out in his latest article.
From Linus7: Doesn't the Bible tell us that every eye will see Him, that He will return at the Last Day with the Last Trump sounded by the Archangel? Doesn't it say that He will return accompanied by His saints and angels, in flaming fire taking vengence on those who don't know God?
THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, but they are seen through the eyes of the Spirit. You look for literal events that you can see with eyes of flesh, but you will never see it that way, because that is not how spiritual things are seen. The Jews of Christ's time were hoping in this glorious being who would stand on top of the temple and announce his kingdom. What came was this dusty peasant man who hung out with the low-life people. Yet, wasn't he glorious? The "orthodox" Pharisees and the Saducees didn't think so. He was a delusional wacko who was obviously wrong, and had to be put away for the protection of their nation. Hello, aren't these obvious details from the life of Jesus, and their application to us today, worth considering in a "Christian" forum?
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT LIGHT IN WHAT EVER FORM GOD CHOOSES TO SENDS IT, but instead cling to an old form that was for another day, kicking at anything that doesn't conform with our religious prejudice, WE WILL MISS THE COMING OF CHRIST, and be left desolate. I tell you today that this is now being fulfilled in your hearing.
From Keble: Jesus taught in the marketplace, but this fellow hides himself within a website.
Sir, Jesus was a normal man doing normal things during his day. The market, and the temple, and the city gates, is where men gathered to talk and exchange ideas. Today he would drive a car and use the internet. People have this fantasy about "the way it was in Bible times", or they way it will be when Christ comes on his cloud of water vapor up in the air, with his angels and trumpets blowing. Christ does not live in man's "someday" or "long ago" storybook fantasy land. Those symbols were meant to convey a lesson, not be turned into a fairly tale by men.
From Keble: I'm hard pressed to tell whether Wayne Bent is an intellectual fraud or a delusional wacko.
Why don't you ask your God? Isn't He able to make the truth clear to you, or do you rely on your own judgments about things? If you do that latter, as many devout, pious souls do, you will never see Heaven, and you are not saved. The voice of God in the soul is the only hope we have of knowing what the truth is.Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 6:45For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.