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Offline StGeorge

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Creed Chanted?
« on: May 09, 2008, 10:31:04 PM »
I'm reading Abbe Guette's book The Papacy.  In one section he writes about the Creed in the West and how it was being "chaunted."  He writes of this as though it were an inovation; whereas in the East the Creed was "recited."  Can anybody shed some light on this for me?  At the Eastern churches I've been to, the Creed is sometimes recited, sometimes chanted.  The Orthodox Church I attend now (ACROD) it is chanted, and the Ruthenian Catholic church I used to attend also chanted it.  Do other Orthodox Churches chant the Creed?   

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 10:55:23 PM »
The congregation recites the creed in both English and/or Greek at nearly every GOA church I've attended.

Creed is sung in the one OCA and one Antiochian church that I've attended.

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 11:20:27 PM »
normal Slavic practice is to chant the Creed and Lord's Prayer (usually the whole congregation), while both are normally recited in Greek practice.  Allow for variability in parishes (e.g. SolEX01's Antiochian example above).

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 10:47:38 AM »
In my OCA paeish, we normally sing the creed but if the choir is sparse we sometimes chant it.
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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 05:56:17 PM »
I'm reading Abbe Guette's book The Papacy.  In one section he writes about the Creed in the West and how it was being "chaunted."  He writes of this as though it were an inovation; whereas in the East the Creed was "recited."  Can anybody shed some light on this for me?  At the Eastern churches I've been to, the Creed is sometimes recited, sometimes chanted.  The Orthodox Church I attend now (ACROD) it is chanted, and the Ruthenian Catholic church I used to attend also chanted it.  Do other Orthodox Churches chant the Creed?   

It is a parish by parish situation as to whether it is chanted or recited.  I've heard it sang say in Slavonic and then recited in English.  Even in one parish it may be chanted one Sunday and then the next Sunday a cantor/choir director might be out of town and the person filling in might just have it recited.  Or in a highly Choral setting where the choir does most of the singing they might recite the Creed so everyone does so together because they haven't found a congregational piece or who knows,  really my long point is that there are limitless variables as to why a parish may or may not chant the Creed. 

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2008, 12:26:51 AM »
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we recite the creed and sing/chant the  Lord's Prayer

Once in a blue moon the choir sings the creed (personally I don't care for it -- nor singing the Our Father -- but so what, I get over it)
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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2008, 12:36:04 AM »
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we recite the creed and sing/chant the  Lord's Prayer

In our ACROD parish, sing both.
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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2008, 08:03:53 AM »
In Finland, both the Lord's prayer and the creed are sung.

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 08:10:21 AM »
In the "Sui Juris Metropolitan Byzantine Church of America" (formerly the Ruthenian Metropolia), the Creed is often recited in order to shorten the length of the liturgy.

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Re: Creed Chanted?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 12:56:37 AM »
In our ACROD parish, sing both.

In our OCA parish, we sing both. About the only thing that is recited is the prayer of preparation (St. John Chrysostom). And as EofK said, when the choir director is unable to lead us and the choir is sparse, we will sometimes recite the creed together. I have to say that I prefer the sung version.  :)
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