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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2010, 10:33:05 AM »

I have found the following beautiful Amharic song from youtube. The title of the song is “Ney Arsema” meaning: Come Arsema. The first verse in the song says:
 
Ney Arsema holy – Ney Arsema martyr
Arsema, Arsema, – Ney Arsema
When I call thee Arsema – Ney Arsema
To intercede for me – Ney Arsema
To God thy creator – Ney Arsema
My sins, my mistakes – Ney Arsema
Let me confess to thee – Ney Arsema
Lead me O Arsema – Ney Arsema
Holding my hands – Ney Arsema
etc...

With this song as a background, the video presents her story in Amharic and also shows some icons and her church in Armenia.

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4GSm13cc7k

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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2010, 05:20:01 PM »

Thank you for this, Hiywot!  I've e-mailed the video link, as well as your translation, to my friends.  I think I might also put this in the OO music thread.
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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2011, 02:03:55 PM »

It's the feast day of St. Hripsime.  Happy feast day, everyone!
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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2011, 03:52:57 PM »

May her prayers shelter us all!
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« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2011, 01:00:17 AM »

St. Hrispsime, intercede on our behalf to the Lord our God.
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2011, 01:16:07 AM »

I applaud the Ethiopians for recognizing the holiness of saints that are not necessarily considered part of their immediate "tradition" (lower-case t) per se. I think that even Armenians (especially outside of Armenia) don't know much about her or her martyrdom. I think there is a tendency to not focus on our own saints, save a few such as the one in my avatar (St. Vartan).

I could be wrong, but I think it is far past due for a revival of the Church Fathers and saints within the Armenian Church as well as Oriental Orthodoxy as a whole. I think they have been neglected because here in the West, it seems as if no one wants to hear about them. This has been my own experience, and 99% of what I have learned about the saints and the Church Fathers (even St. John Chrysostom) has been outside my church; I wouldn't have even known about Chrysostom if I hadn't come across Ancient Faith Radio, and then later a friend of mine from Armenia. I wonder how common this experience is, or maybe it is endemic to my experience...
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2011, 02:05:48 AM »

I think there is a tendency to not focus on our own saints, save a few such as the one in my avatar (St. Vartan).

I could be wrong, but I think it is far past due for a revival of the Church Fathers and saints within the Armenian Church as well as Oriental Orthodoxy as a whole. I think they have been neglected because here in the West, it seems as if no one wants to hear about them.

That's my experience as well, at least within the Armenian Church.  I find that the Copts and other Orthodox have a better knowledge and veneration of their own saints.  It just seems to be the Armenians who neglect our saints as much as we do.  It's very frustrating. 
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2011, 02:39:41 AM »

I think there is a tendency to not focus on our own saints, save a few such as the one in my avatar (St. Vartan).

I could be wrong, but I think it is far past due for a revival of the Church Fathers and saints within the Armenian Church as well as Oriental Orthodoxy as a whole. I think they have been neglected because here in the West, it seems as if no one wants to hear about them.

That's my experience as well, at least within the Armenian Church.  I find that the Copts and other Orthodox have a better knowledge and veneration of their own saints.  It just seems to be the Armenians who neglect our saints as much as we do.  It's very frustrating. 

I wonder what the reason behind it is. In any case maybe we are supposed to bring it up with our respective parish priests as to why we don't hear about our own saints. It seems to me that these accounts - especially of Christian chastity and martyrdom and proclaiming the Risen Christ unto death should be inspiring to us and give us hope when we have our own crosses to bear.
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« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2011, 10:26:13 PM »

The feast day of St. Hripsime in Armenia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf24E-rRZfw

The next day, the feast day of St. Gayane, her spiritual mother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98yGkNQv60

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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2011, 11:46:28 PM »

Her name is St. Arapsima in the Coptic Church. We even have a movie for her-

http://www.copticme.com/coptic-movies.php#
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« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2011, 11:59:51 PM »

The feast day of St. Hripsime in Armenia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf24E-rRZfw

The next day, the feast day of St. Gayane, her spiritual mother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98yGkNQv60


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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2011, 12:12:03 AM »

Those are reliquaries.
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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2011, 01:15:35 PM »

Those are reliquaries.
Cool. Smiley Are the Armenians the only ones who do that?

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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2011, 01:30:05 AM »

Another mezmur about St. Hripsime, complete with translation, is linked in this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9840.msg652182.html#msg652182
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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2011, 02:30:01 AM »

Somehow it seems.. usually Orthodox saints have the hardest to pronounce names... Eastern, or Oriental you name it..

I'm not sure I can really pronounce Ioannis even... is it "Ee oh ann iss"?  or is it "Yohannes" like the Germans say it?

How do you pronounce Hripsemeh?
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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2011, 03:43:01 AM »

Hahaha. I always wonder that, Andrew. So many Coptic saints have not only unique names, but multiple ways of pronouncing them. For instance, you will read in the synaxarium and see things like "the commemoration of St. Qozman (Cosmas) El-Tahawy and his companions" (Paona 1). If you speak Arabic and English (like most people in my parish do), this is pretty interesting since the two don't sound very similar. Q and K are not homophones in Arabic like they are in English, and Copts sometimes pronounce "c" as "s" (probably since they're used to the Coptic script, where this makes sense; you will often find transliterations of Coptic words like "Epchois" as "Epchoic" or "Epchoice", pronounced "Ebshois"), so it comes out as "Sosmas".  Smiley Sometimes it takes a bit of straining to remember who we're talking about, honestly (ahhhh, yes...St. Abe-Fam, a.k.a. Epipham, a.k.a. Bifam, a.k.a. Phoebammon...I have no idea how that last one snuck in there!).

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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2011, 08:42:34 PM »

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OH wow! I have not seen this thread, this is great! thank you Salpy, I will have you know I love your avatar, this icon was not known initially in the main cities in Ethio, so somehow after reading the life of St.Arsema, someone must have looked at st Barbara's Icon and decided here is a martyr by what she was holding, it must be st.Arsema, so it started to circulate as her  and we all bought it and were quite content lol, then a friend told me that one of the holy fathers saw it and laughed he could read the Greek,and obviously no one who was buying and selling the icon did lol so he and few other people started to advise some of the main distributors if they could reprint the icon as is but to change the script in Amharic to say St Arsema , because the icon was already loved and associated with her by the people lol so we were happy to keep our icons and buy the new one as well. but soon the correct icon you now have started to circulate along others that were done in Ethiopian iconographic styles by associations that were formed in St.Arsema  Smiley there are still st Barbara's icon being sold though lol on some its without inscription , on some the Amharic inscription is on lol

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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2011, 10:10:48 PM »

How do you pronounce Hripsemeh?

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« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2012, 02:48:00 AM »

Happy feast day of St. Hripsimeh, everyone!
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« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2012, 02:56:39 AM »

Thank you Salpy, may her intercession and aide be with us!
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« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2012, 08:36:59 AM »

Thank you Salpy, may her intercession and aide be with us!

Amen!
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« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2012, 09:48:10 PM »

I probably mentioned this earlier, but it is worth repeating that the day after St. Hripsimeh's feast day, we have the feast of St. Gayaneh, her spiritual mother who was martyred with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfyYIo9sIOY&list=UUm03-iV0O8sSMpOyQK3Qjcg&index=3&feature=plcp
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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2012, 01:59:01 PM »

We welcomed “Tabot” of Kidist Arsema (St. Hripsime) this past Sunday at St. Michael Ethiopian Tewahedo Church in DC! Arsema is now in the USA!!! Grin Words can’t express the joy I feel!
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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2012, 02:14:33 PM »

We welcomed “Tabot” of Kidist Arsema (St. Hripsime) this past Sunday at St. Michael Ethiopian Tewahedo Church in DC! Arsema is now in the USA!!! Grin Words can’t express the joy I feel!


Greetings, Ergib!

This can only be the Holy Spirit! Today's St. Michael's Day on the Ethiopian Calendar, so, last night, I placed this amazing image as my screen saver:



'Ergib' means 'Pigeon/Dove'

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That is a lovely picture.   Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2012, 12:52:12 PM »

We welcomed “Tabot” of Kidist Arsema (St. Hripsime) this past Sunday at St. Michael Ethiopian Tewahedo Church in DC! Arsema is now in the USA!!! Grin Words can’t express the joy I feel!


Greetings, Ergib!

This can only be the Holy Spirit! Today's St. Michael's Day on the Ethiopian Calendar, so, last night, I placed this amazing image as my screen saver:

'Ergib' means 'Pigeon/Dove'

Yep!  Smiley
That is a lovely image!
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