Has anyone mentioned in this thread that Mel Gibson's movie, "Passion of the Christ" is primarily based on the visions of a Roman Catholic nun?
Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich (German: Anna Katharina Emmerick; 8 September 1774 – 9 February 1824) was a Roman Catholic Augustinian Canoness Regular of Windesheim, mystic, Marian visionary, ecstatic and stigmatist.
She was born in Flamschen, a farming community at Coesfeld, in the Diocese of Münster, Westphalia, Germany, and died at age 49 in Dülmen, where she had been a nun, and later became bedridden. Emmerich is notable for her visions on the life and Passion of Jesus Christ, reputed to be revealed to her by the Blessed Virgin Mary under Religious ecstasy.
During her bedridden years, a number of well-known figures were inspired to visit her. The poet Clemens Brentano interviewed her at length and wrote two books based on his notes of her visions. The authenticity of Brentano's writings has been questioned and critics have characterized the books as "conscious elaborations by a poet" and a "well-intentioned fraud" by Brentano.
Emmerich was beatified on October 3, 2004, by Pope John Paul II. However, the Vatican focused on her own personal piety rather than the religious writings associated to her by Clemens Brentano. Emmerich has a widespread devotion among Traditionalist Catholics.
Yes. On the first page, actually. Reply #14.
OK thanks ZZ.
So, the thread might as well have ended there, or with Mina's comment about how perhaps some might benefit from a little more focus on the suffering of the Bridegroom.
In summary, we have a bunch of people, mostly those outside the Orthodox faith with distorted views, and those who may be Orthodox with distorted views, arguing about Jews based on the ecstatic visions of an RC nun (RCism is well known for a long history of anti-semitism) filmed by a director well known for anti-semitic views, arguing how God views them.
Yes, this thread should have ended long ago.
I think it's a bit rich for Orthodox to point fingers at Catholics for anti-Semitism.
Really? The entire Orthodox Church?
Which of the seven councils came up with decrees like this:
The third and latest ex cathedra proclamation of this dogma from Pope Eugene IV, 1441, the Bull Cantate Domino reads as follows: “The most Holy Roman Catholic Church firmly believes, professes, and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great at it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remains within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”
The days of Christians wandering back and forth from synagogue to Christian Liturgy are over. The Sabbath was moved to Sunday (Resurrection Day) to celebrate the Resurrection. The statement above is not rhetorical device set in a greater context of church life and teaching to guide people away from wandering back and forth and all the confusion that entails, but is rather a clear statement of RC underpinnings that continued up to the modern era when they formally backed off that stance and implemented changes in catechesis.
I, for one, am grateful for the immense spiritual beauty of what has come to us (the nations) through Judaism, especially Jesus Christ Himself.
What people tend to forget in these dramatizations of evil Jews murdering one of their own is that the people weeping at His feet were Jews too, and the mockers and scourgers were of the nations. And all of this is our greatest Feast of the year.
That some Orthodox people have engaged in pogroms does not translate to 'the entire Orthodox Church'.
Please point out the directive from the seven councils to hate Jews in general, condemn them to hell, and annihilate them.
Your forum probably won't be set upon by Abe Foxman and his ADL minions since the rules here will preclude those of other faiths from camping here for years and tirelessly ripping on Christians as they do in other forums. Though, threads such as these gives him a reason to claim that $500k salary.