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Offline Keble

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How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« on: July 10, 2003, 03:11:28 PM »
Assuming that female priests are not the answer, then how should the church deal with a world in which families are broken and fathers are absent?

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Re:How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2003, 03:21:46 PM »
I would say having a male parish priest is a good starting point: having a father figure in the parish is an inspiration.

Families were broken in the Roman Empire, too, and the Church met the need then without female priests.

The Orthodox Church can meet the needs of modern life by offering an undiluted example of holiness and its impact on one's life.

A simple answer; I don't beleive we need to constantly come up with new gimmicks to "help people" like the self-help crowd (Not saying you subscribe to that, btw.)  Consistent witness in a simple, humble manner will do the trick, I believe.  It worked on me.

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Re:How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2003, 05:26:12 PM »
Let's not forget godparents. Every godparent makes a promise to God, the child,and the parents to teach that child how to walk a straight path towards the Lord.

In my life, my godfather has had to fill in while my father was not 'available'.  I'm grateful for his counsel (he was a former Marine D.I., so he's pretty hard to ignore! ;>) ) and without him I know I would have made multiple mistakes.

This system has worked for the history of the Church; it's just in these 'advanced' times that we forget the importance of this godparent-godchild relationship.
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Re:How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2003, 05:38:58 PM »
Keble,

I agree wth anastasios says about the symbol of a male priest.

I disagree that a female priest is better suited to minister to unwed/divorced mothers. Because I feel that instead of helping the situation, that another strong female figure for the children would be detrimental. They already have that at home and generally in school. And it certainly would not help the woman to have ANOTHER woman friend to tell her problems to.

A man is supposed to head up a family and the Church.

The woman and her children need a stong male prescence. If they cannot get it at home, then at least they can get it in the Church.

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Re:How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2003, 09:34:29 PM »
Assuming that female priests are not the answer, then how should the church deal with a world in which families are broken and fathers are absent?


Preach the Gospel. Give it to men and women straight.

Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can stop the tide of sin that leads to abuse, broken families, and absent fathers.
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Re:How You Keep Them Down On the Farm?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2003, 11:34:11 PM »

Amen. Linus!

I know that I personally have become a more forgiving and patient man since I have become closer to the Church and our Lord.
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