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Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« on: April 15, 2008, 02:23:47 PM »
Just curious. Do any EOs believe Mary was a sinner?
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Re: Is it okay to agree with Immaculate Conception and still be Orthodox?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 02:34:11 PM »
Just curious. Do any EOs believe Mary was a sinner?

Try a search of past threads. Plenty of discussion.
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Re: Is it okay to agree with Immaculate Conception and still be Orthodox?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 02:36:44 PM »
Try a search of past threads. Plenty of discussion.
I searched Mary and Sin and the only results I got are form this thread. LOL
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Re: Is it okay to agree with Immaculate Conception and still be Orthodox?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 02:45:46 PM »
I searched Mary and Sin and the only results I got are form this thread. LOL

Funny ...I got 22 pages of threads.
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Re: Is it okay to agree with Immaculate Conception and still be Orthodox?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 02:49:32 PM »
Funny ...I got 22 pages of threads.
I changed it to Mary and Sinner and found a great deal more than I previously had.
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Re: Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 12:23:06 AM »
Click on the "Theotokos" tag below.  This has been discussed so many times, it's not even funny.

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Re: Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 12:51:11 AM »
AFAIK, St. John Chrysostom seemed to think that the Theotokos might have been a little bit prideful.
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Re: Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 02:30:39 AM »
AFAIK, St. John Chrysostom seemed to think that the Theotokos might have been a little bit prideful.

Wow, really? What'd he say?
Come, let us wonder at the virgin most pure, wondrous in herself, unique in creation, she gave birth, yet knew no man; her pure soul with wonder was filled, daily her mind gave praise in joy at the twofold wonder: her virginity preserved, her child most dear. Blessed is He who shone forth from her!

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Re: Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2008, 09:02:46 PM »
Sorry, I don't recall the exact text.  You should look into it if you are interested.
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Re: Do any EO believe Mary was a sinner?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2008, 09:57:47 PM »
She is called "Spotless One," in the Small Paraklisis to the Theotokos Service.
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