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He hangeth earth upon nothing (Job 26:7)
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Don't die and open your eyes in Hell! It exist whether you believe it or not!
Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, felt total isolation, and experienced the putrid and rotting stench, deafening screams of agony, terrorizing demons, and finally, the strong hand of God lifting him out of the pit.
There is an old saying; "It's better to believe and be safe, rather than to not believe and be damned for all eternity! For those who don't believe in Hell, your disbelief of it doesn't change the fact that God says; Hell is real! (text copied from the second link below)
Bill Wiese, probably a protestant Christian, tells about his experience of being in hell. In my opinion his experience of hell clearly seems to be identical with those of some Orthodox Christians who experienced it during a clinical death too (as I read it in one book). Please do not fall into despondency watching the movie, the hell is not the only thing that Mr Wiese saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTuLNFTm70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhhEvfSaSA&feature=related
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 08:16:53 AM » |
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Lord have mercy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:33:30 PM » |
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I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God?
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Christ is risen!
Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 01:51:53 PM » |
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I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God? I believe that we've not quite figured it out either, and that we're unlikely to ever entirely understand its mystery. |
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"Paint a bunch of icons of our Lord and the saints and then kiss them. Also, pray to Mary after she dies in the future."
~ The Epistle of St. Paul to the Antiochians, 46 AD.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 02:12:37 PM » |
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I'll let you all know.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 02:58:44 PM » |
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there is no hell
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 03:17:01 PM » |
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there is no hell
The HELL there is! |
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 03:18:56 PM » |
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Of course there's a Hell.  |
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 06:49:53 PM » |
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Hell freezes over rather regularly. |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 07:29:15 PM » |
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I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God?
From my understanding, Ansgar, it's a state of being in the presence of God's love. We either experience that presence as heaven (ecstacy) or hell (agony). I'm supposing that this is a temporary state until all things are settled and there is the renewal of heaven and earth and we live eternally in our resurrected bodies?  |
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I believe in One God, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible.
Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Theodosius Dobzhansky, Russian Orthodox Christian (1900-1975)
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 07:38:48 PM » |
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Perhaps if we do not ever have it figured out, it is O. K. I know none of us want to head there.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 07:44:37 PM » |
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Perhaps if we do not ever have it figured out, it is O. K. I know none of us want to head there.
You are right on both counts.  |
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I believe in One God, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible.
Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Theodosius Dobzhansky, Russian Orthodox Christian (1900-1975)
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 08:50:23 PM » |
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I'll let you all know.
First of all, I doubt that you are destined for hell. Secondly, if you do somehow find yourself in hell, please refrain from contacting me. Selam |
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"Salvation is free, but not easy. It is completely dependent upon the grace of God, and yet we must work it out with fear and trembling. It is given to all, but only a few find it. We are saved only by His Cross, and yet not without taking up our own." +GMK+
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 09:58:14 PM » |
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I'll let you all know.
First of all, I doubt that you are destined for hell. Secondly, if you do somehow find yourself in hell, please refrain from contacting me. Selam but, but, hell is where the party's at |
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 05:47:51 AM » |
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Lord's Prayer in Aramaic; may be this can give some consolation.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I |
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 07:07:20 AM » |
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Beautiful! Posting this on my facebook page. Selam |
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"Salvation is free, but not easy. It is completely dependent upon the grace of God, and yet we must work it out with fear and trembling. It is given to all, but only a few find it. We are saved only by His Cross, and yet not without taking up our own." +GMK+
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2011, 05:28:41 AM » |
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there is no hell
The HELL there is! Hilarious! |
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To God be the Glory in all things! Amen!
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