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A REAL experience of hell
« on: October 29, 2011, 08:05:46 AM »
Don't die and open your eyes in Hell! It exist whether you believe it or not!
Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, felt total isolation, and experienced the putrid and rotting stench, deafening screams of agony, terrorizing demons, and finally, the strong hand of God lifting him out of the pit.

There is an old saying; "It's better to believe and be safe, rather than to not believe and be damned for all eternity! For those who don't believe in Hell, your disbelief of it doesn't change the fact that God says; Hell is real! (text copied from the second link below)

Bill Wiese, probably a protestant Christian, tells about his experience of being in hell. In my opinion his experience of hell clearly seems to be identical with those of some Orthodox Christians who experienced it during a clinical death too (as I read it in one book). Please do not fall into despondency watching the movie, the hell is not the only thing that Mr Wiese saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTuLNFTm70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhhEvfSaSA&feature=related

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 08:16:53 AM »
Lord have mercy.
He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end.

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:33:30 PM »
I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God?
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 01:51:53 PM »
I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God?

I believe that we've not quite figured it out either, and that we're unlikely to ever entirely understand its mystery.
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 02:12:37 PM »
I'll let you all know.
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 02:58:44 PM »
there is no hell

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 03:17:01 PM »
there is no hell
The HELL there is!
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 03:18:56 PM »
Of course there's a Hell;)
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 06:49:53 PM »
Hell freezes over rather regularly.
If you will, you can become all flame.
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 07:29:15 PM »
I still can't figure this out. Dose the orthodox church teach that hell is a actual place with flames and all that or is it just the agony you feel when you have rejected God?

From my understanding, Ansgar, it's a state of being in the presence of God's love. We either experience that presence as heaven (ecstacy) or hell (agony). I'm supposing that this is a temporary state until all things are settled and there is the renewal of heaven and earth and we live eternally in our resurrected bodies?   ???
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 07:38:48 PM »
Perhaps if we do not ever have it figured out, it is O. K.  I know none of us want to head there.

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 07:44:37 PM »
Perhaps if we do not ever have it figured out, it is O. K.  I know none of us want to head there.

You are right on both counts.   ;D
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 08:50:23 PM »
I'll let you all know.


First of all, I doubt that you are destined for hell. Secondly, if you do somehow find yourself in hell, please refrain from contacting me.   ;)



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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 09:58:14 PM »
I'll let you all know.


First of all, I doubt that you are destined for hell. Secondly, if you do somehow find yourself in hell, please refrain from contacting me.   ;)



Selam

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 05:47:51 AM »
Lord's Prayer in Aramaic; may be this can give some consolation.  :angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I
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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 07:07:20 AM »
Lord's Prayer in Aramaic; may be this can give some consolation.  :angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I


Beautiful! Posting this on my facebook page.


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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 01:31:56 PM »
Well, the guy mentioned MUST have had one of these since he was in Hell:

http://christwire.org/2011/07/5-everyday-items-that-will-send-you-to-hell/

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2011, 05:28:41 AM »
To God be the Glory in all things! Amen!

Only pray for me, that God would give me both inward and outward strength, that I may not only speak, but truly will; and that I may not merely be called a Christian, but really be found to be one. St.Ignatius of Antioch.Epistle to the Romans.

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Re: A REAL experience of hell
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2011, 06:13:31 AM »
Lord's Prayer in Aramaic; may be this can give some consolation.  :angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I
interesting you would say that,because listening to the priest singing the Lord's prayer :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLZr11JhMM&feature=related  , and this version also  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBtb3zZhOE&feature=related   and of course  this prayer of the Salutation,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMM9ZuRkKs&feature=related   and what you already posted brings me great comfort each time i listen to them.
To God be the Glory in all things! Amen!

Only pray for me, that God would give me both inward and outward strength, that I may not only speak, but truly will; and that I may not merely be called a Christian, but really be found to be one. St.Ignatius of Antioch.Epistle to the Romans.