It is good to see the enthusiasm for Orthodox worship. It is heartening that most people are following St Paul's admonition to "love believes all things, hopes all things" and to consider the "pure, excellent" etc.
So again I am disappointed when Theognosis writes, and then there there is a long unseemly conversation based around the theme of a modified evangelical liturgy. e.g Theognosis wrote: "Now, a "modified" evangelical liturgy is something else altogether. It doesn't deserve a place alongside any established rite in Orthodoxy, either Western or Eastern."
To be clear, i never mentioned such a thing. The evangelicals to my knowledge will be trained in the liturgy of St John Chrysostom.
What I did write was regarding the second group, which uses an ancient Orthodox liturgy, which has been slightly modified to make it more Orthodox. Theognosis, you have jumped to conclusions and not followed my advice about believing the best. Maybe you should see your priest about your problem in this regard. You wrote: "I think that's innovation, and I as a former Roman Catholic am tired of it. Again, I hope you understand." Yes I do understand. And the defensiveness/aggessiveness you are showing needs healing- please see your priest, he will help.
Also, when you write: "The voice of the Orthodox Christians in the Philippines must be heard. We want nothing less than the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. Any "modified" liturgy must be rejected, with no compromise."
and : "When I said "we", I intend to gather formal support from the laity, not just from the Readers, i.e. the Diakonia. " And then you jump into defining Orthodox and heresy. Really!
This is not Orthodox thinking nor action. It is outright politicking which verges on factions. St Paul warns a lot about this. Be careful in your zeal you do not cause hate and schism. "we want nothing less" is not Orthodox humility. "Gather formal support" is not Orthodox living. Pray, seek repentance and a softer heart. I am not condemning you but genuinely concerned as a pastor for your soul's health. You are seeing heresy under every bush.
Relax: There is no pressure on your parish to change.
And you really should learn about Orthodox liturgical history and theology. If you do you will see that not only St. John Chrysostom's liturgy is canonical, but also St. Basil's and St. James and several other pre-RC-split Western liturgies, and various Syriac liturgies etc. So your concern is not even Orthodox. In Jerusalem they use St. James, in Egypt, St Mark's etc etc. You may be bringing your reaction against RC innovations into orthodoxy and thus condemning the actions of a canonical bishop who has by the canons the right and responsibility to allow economia for those entering the faith. Orthodoxy is about grace. It is not about lay people jumping to conclusions and jumping into fear-based politicking that verges on factionalism.
As Tamara asked: yes there will be a senior priest appointed probably from USA or Australia to train them. maybe even a bishop.
Now, please whoever, do not read more into what i wrote above than I have said. Show Orthodox humility and grace. This holy week is not the time for fear, judgement and harshness.
Really, most of you have better things to do than argue here. Those who reply with graceful short answers, great! But please avoid feeding an argument. Or jumping to conclusions.
"If there is anything worthy of praise, think on these things..."
Fr John D'Alton, fully canonical Orthodox priest, using the liturgys of St John Chrysostom, St Basil, St. James and even occasionally the pre-sanctified liturgy of St. Gregory the Dialogist.