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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2008, 04:29:33 PM »
Quote from: ialmisry on March 15, 2008, 03:53:22 PM
For one thing, the existence of churches belonging to other autocephalous Churches in all of the named places. 

Again, as I pointed out before, this has nothing to do with what was being discussed - and now you've drawn GiC into your tangent.
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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2008, 05:43:38 PM »
Quote from: PeterTheAleut on March 15, 2008, 02:23:37 PM
Last I saw, the Orthodox have no pope.

Well, actually we do, his throne is the ancient and venerable see of Alexandria. But in terms of canonical authority, he is second to our Oecumenical Patriarch.
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« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2008, 06:33:25 PM »
Isn't there more than one pope in Alexandria?
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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2008, 06:46:26 PM »
Quote from: Joseph-James on March 15, 2008, 06:33:25 PM
Isn't there more than one pope in Alexandria?
The Vatican will not allow the Eastern Rite Patriarch there to use the title of Pope.
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« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2008, 11:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Irish Hermit on March 15, 2008, 06:46:26 PM
The Vatican will not allow the Eastern Rite Patriarch there to use the title of Pope.

I think he means the Coptic Patriarch.
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« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2008, 04:05:46 PM »
Yes. Coptic. Historically, they're the oldest in Alexandria. Pope Shenouda.
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« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2008, 03:20:31 PM »
Quote from: lubeltri on March 14, 2008, 11:16:04 AM
That is why we desire EO unity. No more Lyonses, Ferrara-Florences and Balamands, all of which just further divided the EO Churches. 

The Balamand Statement may have its faults; nevertheless, to my mind it is categorically different than Lyons and Ferrara-Florence.

Quote from: lubeltri on March 14, 2008, 11:16:04 AM
Hopefully the Holy Father makes that visit to Patriarch Alexei soon.

I hope for that as well.

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« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2008, 11:10:20 PM »
The title of 'Pope' has been in continuous use for the Patriarch of Alexandria since about 240 a.d. first used for Pope Heraclas of Alexandria.  Pope Shenouda is the Coptic pope of Alexandria while Pope Theodoros is the Greek Orthodox pope of Alexandria.

I'm almost positive that the imposter Coptic Catholic Patriarch Antonios Naguib does not, nor is allowed to use 'pope' for himself based on strict orders from his boss; Pope of Rome .


EDIT:  Derogatory 'U' word replaced with less insulting reference to Catholic Copts...  IOW, please don't use the 'U' word in reference to our Eastern Catholic brothers and sisters.  -PtA
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« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2008, 12:55:08 PM »
Quote from: buzuxi on March 21, 2008, 11:10:20 PM
The title of 'Pope' has been in continuous use for the Patriarch of Alexandria since about 240 a.d. first used for Pope Heraclas of Alexandria.  Pope Shenouda is the Coptic pope of Alexandria while Pope Theodoros is the Greek Orthodox pope of Alexandria.

I'm almost positive that the imposter Coptic Catholic Patriarch Antonios Naguib does not, nor is allowed to use 'pope' for himself based on strict orders from his boss; Pope of Rome .

Yes, you are correct on that, nor can the Melkite Patriarch who is also Melkite Patriarch of Alexandria use it, nor the Latin one who was abolished (Latin Copts do exist).  Their church is not big enough for two Popes, unlike the Early Church.
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