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Online PeterTheAleut

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Re: Denominations?
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2009, 05:44:59 PM »
I have one more question. Since the Coptic Church is not heretic (and nor are any other jurisdictions heretic), I am free to attend any ritual in any Orthodox Church, right?
Unless you participate in sacraments.
So, as a (Greek) Eastern Orthodox Christian I am not allowed to participate in Oriental Orthodoxy's sacraments?
As a general rule, no, since we've not established official communion yet.  But much depends on how your bishop interprets this rule.

What about the rest jurisdictions? Can I take part in a sacrament in an American Orthodox Church? Or a Russian one?
As long as you're an Eastern Orthodox Christian in good standing, you can receive the Mysteries in any canonical Eastern Orthodox church.
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Re: Denominations?
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2009, 05:48:39 PM »
As long as you're an Eastern Orthodox Christian in good standing, you can receive the Mysteries in any canonical Eastern Orthodox church.
And here is a list of those Churches in that case GammaRay isn't familiar with it.
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Re: Denominations?
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2009, 05:53:23 PM »
I have one more question. Since the Coptic Church is not heretic (and nor are any other jurisdictions heretic), I am free to attend any ritual in any Orthodox Church, right?

Stanley123, the fact that we're not in full communion doesn't change our basic theological views maybe.
What is preventing the full communion between the two Churches?

One side wants the other side to admit that they were wrong for the last 1600 years. If you attend a parish council meeting or a quarterly meeting, you will find this would be virtually impossible to admit.

What would be the way out to resolve this unfortunate situation?

Presumably an Ecumenical Council with both Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian hierarchs present, would be able to resolve the situation. Although I guarantee even in this case, schisms on both sides are a near certainty.
For the OO, acceptance of the Definitions of the 4th-7th Ecumenical Councils.  The only hang up would not really be the Faith (its the same), and not even the 4th, but the definitions of the 6th and 7th: there is a reference that suggests that the 4th Council anathematized Pope Dioscoros of Alexandria.  It didn't, though it did depose him.  Severus is also mentioned in the 7th.

For the EO: admit that Dioscoros wasn't anathematized.
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