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« on: February 19, 2008, 12:49:04 PM »

I have noted on many threads that this author's books, Gifts of the Desert and Mountain of Silence, are often recommended. I have read neither.
I do, however, have a copy of his Homage to the Sun, published in 1987. Frankly, I have started this book three or four times over the last 15-16 years and each time get about 30-40 pages in and come to a dead stop - refusing to read about a Cypriote mystic healer and all the talk about chakras, re-incarnations, and these re-incarnations resulting in "theosis". I feel each time I've got something in my hands from The Edgar Casey Institute (Association for Research and Enlightenment); feel almost sick from this seemingly heretical stuff.
Who is this author? A New Age type? Anyone else read this one? I got sucked in by his Hellenic name.
I'm not into book burning, but this one would be on the pyre if I were.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 01:08:07 PM »

I have only partially read The Mountain of Silence and bought it based on the great reviews and must read lists.  I got about 100 pages in and wasn't struck by anything un-Orthodox, I was just plain bored with his writing style.  I am not familiar with any of his other books, but will stay away from Homage to the Sun.  You also might remember that he makes it clear in The Mountain of Silence that he had drifted from Orthodoxy and only fairly recently came back to the faith seriously. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »

Thanks. I guess if I'd read the Mountain of Silence then I would "remember"  Cheesy

If that's the case with him personally, how can I criticize him? Maybe been there before myself.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 02:57:44 PM »

I read the whole thing and to me it seemed as though his primary intent in the Mountain of Silence was to dissuade Orthodox Christians from leaving Orthodoxy in search of finding (far) Eastern type spirituality (read Buddhism)... or at the least, to show the spiritual side of Orthodoxy.

I didn't find anything heretical about the book, although he states a vigorous opposition to the Churches position on hell.  He claims that if there is ever another Ecumenical Council, the position will change.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 04:54:30 PM »

I met him and heard him speak at Hellenic College Holy Cross.  He is an amazingly intelligent man-- a sociologist at the University of Main.  Homage to the Sun was indeed written during the time when he had drifted away from Orthodoxy.  He told us that his meeting the Cypriot healer was a catalyst to re-examining Orthodoxy. 

I found him very inspirational.  His motivation didn't seem to me at all to be trying to keep anyone from leaving the church.  Rather, he was answering questions that are often brought up as criticisms and doubts of Orthodoxy.  And yes, he was showing the spiritual side of Orthodoxy via monasticism.  Personally, I thought The Mountain of Silence got much better the farther in you read.  Some of it is a little more difficult to understand and comprehend than what we are probably used to reading (like Ware, Coniaris, Harakas, etc), and it took some real concentration for me.  But actually, he did answer some questions that I had, and I thought it was well worth the read!  I enjoyed it thoroughly and can't wait to pick up Gifts of the Desert (packed away in a box at the moment with almost all of my other books).  I definitely recommend it to anyone looking for a good read about Orthodoxy. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 05:15:46 PM »

As Presbytera Mari said, Dr. Marikides' earlier books were written at a time when he had left Orthodoxy and was exploring other beliefs/philosophies.  His book 'Riding with the Lion' was about his discovery of the mystical aspect of Orthodoxy and was, for me, the reason I even bothered learning about Orthodoxy.  Of coarse now, as an Orthodox Christian, if I were to go back and re-read his earlier works, I would feel the same as Αριστοκλής.  His two latest books Mountain of Silence and Gifts of the Desert are a far departure from his new-agey earlier works.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 07:36:16 PM »

I have read Riding with the lion, The mountian of silence and gifts of the desert, and I can see a change in Kyriacos. It seems during "Riding with the lion" he was beginning to really explore Orthodoxy while maintaining an open mind. By the time he writes "the mountian of silence", it seems as though he if pretty solidly Orthodox (though he does still keep some personal opinions which may differ from the church). He is clearly not a big fan of the doctrine of hell.

All in all, I loved his books; especially the mountian of silence and gifts of the desert. He asks some great questions of Father Maximos. I like how he focouses on the mystical side of Orthodoxy. After reading the books, I regret we don't have a larger monastic presence in the U.S.
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