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Oh look! We're sharing!
« on: February 17, 2008, 03:10:00 AM »
For the life of me, I couldn't understand at first why EO clergy were celebrating at an altar that looked so Armenian.  Then I read the description and realized this was in Singapore, where I guess they don't have a Russian Church, but there is an Armenian one.  It's always so nice to share.   :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PZ9Euo82IU4
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 02:37:43 AM »
I have a question for my EO friends:

Why are there only two candles on the altar?  Whenever I have been to an EO church, there is a candle stick on the altar that holds seven candles.  Or am I not remembering correctly?

Usually, Armenian altars are supposed to have 12 candles, one for each apostle.  You can see that here:

http://www.saintkevork.org/gallery/January-8%2C-2006/DSCN1175

Sometimes, if an altar is too small, they may reduce the amount to eight, but it's supposed to be 12.  I've never seen 2 on an Armenian altar.

Is there a reason why the EO bishop is only using 2 candles in this video?  I'm just curious.

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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 03:28:26 AM »
Is there a reason why the EO bishop is only using 2 candles in this video?  I'm just curious.
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 08:11:30 AM »
I have a question for my EO friends:

Why are there only two candles on the altar?  Whenever I have been to an EO church, there is a candle stick on the altar that holds seven candles.  Or am I not remembering correctly?

Usually, Armenian altars are supposed to have 12 candles, one for each apostle.  You can see that here:

http://www.saintkevork.org/gallery/January-8%2C-2006/DSCN1175

Sometimes, if an altar is too small, they may reduce the amount to eight, but it's supposed to be 12.  I've never seen 2 on an Armenian altar.

Is there a reason why the EO bishop is only using 2 candles in this video?  I'm just curious.


Actually, most Churches I have been to, the candle stand is free standing, and stands behind the altar.  Here, I think it would be obscured by the altar piece, so I think arimethea has the answer.

Eight?  Does that have anything to do with Maccabbees (I know that gets a lot of play in Armenian works)?
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 03:13:37 PM »

Eight?  Does that have anything to do with Maccabbees (I know that gets a lot of play in Armenian works)?

No, I think it is just as a practical matter what will fit on a smaller altar.

Thanks, guys, for answering my question.  I guess I've never seen an EO altar up that close.  Somehow I thought the candlestick with the seven candles was actually on the altar.

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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 03:36:10 PM »
No, I think it is just as a practical matter what will fit on a smaller altar.

Thanks, guys, for answering my question.  I guess I've never seen an EO altar up that close.  Somehow I thought the candlestick with the seven candles was actually on the altar.
At my church and at the other churches I have been to, the candelabra is indeed on the altar itself.
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 05:43:38 PM »
Why did the chicken cross the street on two legs ? Cause that is what God gave him.

Does God care how many candles are on the altar? Will he have mercy if I dont have enough?
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2010, 06:15:44 PM »
Does God care how many candles are on the altar? Will he have mercy if I dont have enough?
A tad melodramatic, don't you think?  ;)
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 06:18:30 PM »
Does God care how many candles are on the altar? Will he have mercy if I dont have enough?

...that depends on what else you have lying on the altar!   ;)
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 06:20:39 PM »
For the life of me, I couldn't understand at first why EO clergy were celebrating at an altar that looked so Armenian.  Then I read the description and realized this was in Singapore, where I guess they don't have a Russian Church, but there is an Armenian one.  It's always so nice to share.   :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PZ9Euo82IU4

Shoot. I couldnt watch. Got this message:

This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 06:30:02 PM »
Why did the chicken cross the street on two legs ? Cause that is what God gave him.

Does God care how many candles are on the altar? Will he have mercy if I dont have enough?
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Re: Oh look! We're sharing!
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 07:00:00 PM »
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Shoot. I couldnt watch. Got this message:

This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.

Yeah, same here.

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