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Ash Wednesday and Lent
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:29:42 PM »
I'd like to wish all our Catholic and Protestant friends blessings and spiritual peace as they begin their Lenten journey today. 



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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 12:35:31 PM »
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 06:13:19 PM »
I'd like to wish all our Catholic and Protestant friends blessings and spiritual peace as they begin their Lenten journey today. 





I second that.  It was really nice to see some people with ash crosses on the forehead today on campus.   :)
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 03:47:45 PM »
Hey Guys--


When does Lent and Ash Wednesday begin for OCs?

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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 03:59:27 PM »
We don't celebrate Ash Wednesday, but Lent for us begins on March 10, forty days before Pascha, which is April 27.
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 04:34:55 PM »
we begin Lent with "Clean Monday", 40 days on the calendar is Vespers Friday Evening of Lazarus Saturday (Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday are standalone), we begin Holy week  on Sunday Night, which is Liturgically Monday.

Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday if you understand those two, you would understand Orthodox Lent, and Pascha, they are the Keys to unlocking everything.

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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 07:07:59 PM »
Hey Guys--


When does Lent and Ash Wednesday begin for OCs?

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We don't celebrate Ash Wednesday, but Lent for us begins on March 10, forty days before Pascha, which is April 27.

In the Orthodox Western Rite, we do observe Ash Wednesday - this year it's March 12.

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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 10:55:54 PM »
Yes I was about to note that our Antiochian Western rite across town do celebrate Ash Wednesday. My dear friend attends there and at times we run amok on some of the holy days they have that we don't. It's not many I think.

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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 03:06:44 PM »
We don't celebrate Ash Wednesday, but Lent for us begins on March 10, forty days before Pascha, which is April 27.

we begin Lent with "Clean Monday", 40 days on the calendar is Vespers Friday Evening of Lazarus Saturday (Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday are standalone), we begin Holy week  on Sunday Night, which is Liturgically Monday.

Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday if you understand those two, you would understand Orthodox Lent, and Pascha, they are the Keys to unlocking everything.

IIRC, Western Lent begins on Ash Wednesday and continues all the way through Holy Saturday, with Sundays not counting as days of Lent.  In the Eastern churches, Great Lent begins on Clean Monday and continues through the eve of Lazarus Saturday, the Saturday immediately preceding Palm Sunday and Holy Week--Sundays count as Lenten days for us, but the days of Holy Week do not, since Holy Week is technically a separate fast for the East.  For both East and West, however, 40 days are counted as days of the Great Lenten Fast.
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2008, 04:02:56 PM »
In the Orthodox Western Rite, we do observe Ash Wednesday - this year it's March 12.

You can always tell the differences in style between RC priests adminstering ashes - some do the small nickel size smudge; others have an entire cross filling up the forehead - looks like a bullseye.  It's big but there is no mistaking you've been to Ash Wednesday services.  Around South Texas you know it's Western Lent because the Mexican food restaurants start running their usual Friday Lent Specials - Tortitas de camaron con nopalitos (dried shrimp patties with cactus in ranchero sauce) and capirotada (Mexican bread pudding, which I recently learned is actually a Jewish dish that originated with Spanish Jews who secretly maintained their Jewish identity first in Spain and then in Mexico).  The shrimp patties are a little strong (think dried krill you feed to big aquarium fish, reconstituted and fried - an acquired taste.  Now the nopalitos are fabulous - a cross between okra, bell pepper and green beans.  And who doesn't like bread pudding?)

Does anyone else have any RC or Byz Cath food traditions they can share?
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2008, 04:58:02 PM »
I do miss my old H Salt Fish Fridays, Tex Mex rules now, with some XX liquid bread...

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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 12:06:13 AM »
Does anyone else have any RC or Byz Cath food traditions they can share?

Hi Tina,

Two traditional Lenten foods that I know of are soft pretzels and meatless soup. The three holes in the prezels represent the Trinity.

The meatless soup is very common. Many parishes have bread and soup nights on Fridays during Lent. I've been on a vocations retreat at a Dominican priory this weekend, and that is what the friars and I ate on Friday (today was turkey---surrexit Christus!).
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2008, 12:19:12 AM »
Brovada, Polenta, Jota, Cacciucco, a Friulian fish Goulasch (no paprika, dried chili flakes instead) and a lot of stews/soups with beans, barely and potatoes are a staple in my house during Lent.
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Re: Ash Wednesday and Lent
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2008, 01:32:43 AM »
We don't celebrate Ash Wednesday, but Lent for us begins on March 10, forty days before Pascha, which is April 27.

In the Western Rite we do. Ash Wednesday is March 12th.