Goodness I am getting more and more popular. Especially with you. I annoyed you as East and West over at Catholic Answers and now here as Papist. And you are correct. I do see the Latin Catholic set of beliefs as the Gold standard.
I didn't state that you are popular
, well, nobody hates you.
I respect you for the strong stand you take, supporting your beliefs as you do. I also can agree that their is only one Truth. Many Orthodox feel just as strongly that we proclaim different Faiths (and for essentially the same reasons you might give).
I just don't agree with your choices...had you been Orthodox like your ancestors, I think we would get along great.
I cannot help but do so since at one time when the Catholic Church was little more than the Latin Church herself and she still taught with Christ's authority at that time.
This is where I think you have spun out of orbit.
The early Latin church was Orthodox, the modern one is not. We can discuss to infinity how that might have happened but the fact remains that it did.
The parts of your Communion which exhibit strong traces of it's former Orthodoxy are mostly clustered in the Byzantine-rite Particular churches and to some extent in the other Eastern Catholic Particular churches, but are a distinct minority even there. There is some trace in the Latin church, perhaps more in evidence in the monastic traditions to some extent...Cassian's children and Carmel's children...but it has been mostly suppressed over time.
-A- Your idea is apparently that, because the church should think with one mind and speak with one voice, the Ultramontanist theory and Latin constructs should prevail everywhere. I suppose then, when you see Orthodox theology stubbornly present among the Eastern Catholics you would like to see it go away, suppressed somehow perhaps. I imagine it can seem like the camel's nose under the tent!
Your actions on the internet have clearly shown a strong desire to discredit and silence the traditional Faith of the Eastern Catholics.
-B- My idea is that...because the church should think with one mind and speak with one voice, the Orthodox theology should prevail everywhere. When I see Orthodox thinking flourishing in certain corners of the Roman Catholic Communion I am encouraged. I really hope that it IS the camel's nose under the tent, because the best way for us to restore communion and be ONE again is to come to a common understanding. In other words, I want to see the Roman Catholic Communion open up to it's own ancient Orthodox roots, and that is not going to happen if every time a Roman Catholic happens to come to an Orthodox understanding of his Faith, he leaves it for Holy Orthodoxy.
He needs to bloom where he is planted, his Orthodoxy should...ideally...flourish and grow right there...and it should spread, putting in deep roots among the people, and the bishops and Cardinals of your church. That might be bad news according to your understanding, but it would be the restoration of Holy Truth to me.
The Roman Communion has already recognized the Orthodox Catholic theology as valid, this is a great first step, a necessary acknowledgment of Orthodox Truth and a huge concession. Rome only continues to ask that Orthodox submit to the Ultramontanist theory of church governance. (It is this last point that is being discussed in high level dialog these days, a major barrier from the Orthodox point of view to be sure, but not
the only one.)
I want to encourage the Orthodox mind among Catholics, I want to see it grow. Many Orthodox do not agree with my position, and I respect their point of view as well, because they do not want to see Orthodox people trapped under the Ultramontanist Papacy. They would prefer to see them come out into the fresh air and the light of day.
But as I see it the schism will never end if all we do is take individuals from each others churches indefinitely. This horrible schism will move around on the map, but it will never go away.