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« on: January 05, 2008, 06:19:18 PM »

A Catholic on another forum asked a question about the validity of the OO priesthood. The response he got was that the RC views OO orders as valid "although there are doubts about the validity of Orders in the Ethiopian Orthodox because of the way Orders have been conferred in that Church."

Naturally, I am not questioning the validity of the Ethiopian priesthood based on Rome's view on the issue. I am, however, interested in how the conferrance of Orders in the Ethiopian Church differs from the other Orthodox churches.

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 04:14:00 AM »

A Catholic on another forum asked a question about the validity of the OO priesthood. The response he got was that the RC views OO orders as valid "although there are doubts about the validity of Orders in the Ethiopian Orthodox because of the way Orders have been conferred in that Church."

Naturally, I am not questioning the validity of the Ethiopian priesthood based on Rome's view on the issue. I am, however, interested in how the conferrance of Orders in the Ethiopian Church differs from the other Orthodox churches.

Thanks


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I vaguely remember some question being with the bishop touching the candidate with his Cross instead of his hand.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 04:40:27 AM »

Haven't read the other forum but are you sure this isn't just something to do with the so-called "Synod in Exile" of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church?

From what I'm aware of, their new ordinations have no validity as not all of their original bishops were properly ordained however their priests who were priests before the schism and the two bishops (if there are more I don't know about them) who are truly bishops still hold their rank although under excommunication.

Could somebody closer to the matter please clarify/confirm/comment on this?
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 03:33:40 AM »

I believe this issue came up with the Anglican Orders question. The question was that though at least theoretically the Ethiopian Church possesses a rite of Ordination, in practice it was different (at least at that time which was the 18th century). Due to the vast number of persons, the Coptic archbishop for the Ethiopians was said to have ordained deacons by placing his cross on their heads and ordained priests by placing his hands and saying "Receive the Holy Spirit" (and it was also said, that again, because of the number of priests, some of them got the imposition of the hands, but no words, and vice versa)

I don't know whether it is applicable now- after all, the Tewahedo Church now has its own bishops and probably follows the entire Ordination rite?
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