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OCNet book club?
« on: December 26, 2007, 08:35:47 AM »
Hey y'all,

 What does everybody think about starting up a book club here where we would vote on an Orthodox book to read and then discuss it when we're all through with it?

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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 08:58:31 AM »
Let's go!  No books by Lossky though not at present. He was a very difficult read for me. Thoughts?
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 09:10:01 AM »
Let's go!  No books by Lossky though not at present. He was a very difficult read for me. Thoughts?
I'm game for about anything.  What do the rest of y'all say?
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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 09:52:33 AM »
I'm game for about anything.  What do the rest of y'all say?

If you're going to do the book club, have it alternate between Orthodox books and fun books.
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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 11:33:15 AM »
I'm game for about anything.  What do the rest of y'all say?

Harry Potter? 

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 04:26:20 PM »
^^ LOL :D Um, no;  my closed-minded, archconservative values will not permit me to read anything satanic. 8)  Seriously though, I'd prefer we stick to Orthodox materials 1. because we never really stop being catechumens, what better way to continue our Christian education than with friends and 2. this being an Orthodox forum, it seems fitting that we would discuss Orthodox materials.  You and I may or may not like Harry Potter, but someone else might genuinely be scandalized if something like this were chosen.  Of coarse, these are only my opinions... 
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2007, 04:37:23 PM »
^^ LOL :D Um, no;  my closed-minded, archconservative values will not permit me to read anything satanic. 8)  Seriously though, I'd prefer we stick to Orthodox materials 1. because we never really stop being catechumens, what better way to continue our Christian education than with friends and 2. this being an Orthodox forum, it seems fitting that we would discuss Orthodox materials.  You and I may or may not like Harry Potter, but someone else might genuinely be scandalized if something like this were chosen.  Of coarse, these are only my opinions... 

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A reading group would be great !

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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2007, 04:44:03 PM »
God bless !

A reading group would be great !

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Thanks, brother.  I thought an Orthodox book club would help me stay motivated as I tend to get lazy if I'm by myself.  So, do you have any recommendations?
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2007, 04:46:19 PM »
A reading group would be fun, but I'm with the others. Orthodox theological books are great, but often heavy reading. It would be nice to mix things up with a good, approved fiction book now and then. A lot of classic novels are classic because they have stood the test of time, and a great many are compatible with your archconservative values. ;)

I'm always game to read anything by Tolkien, Lewis, George MacDonald, etc. :D
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2007, 04:49:01 PM »
Thanks, brother.  I thought an Orthodox book club would help me stay motivated as I tend to get lazy if I'm by myself.  So, do you have any recommendations?

I just received Beginning to Pray by Fr. Anthony Bloom for a Nativity pressent. Just a suggestion off the top of my head. . . :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 05:27:07 PM »
Thanks, brother.  I thought an Orthodox book club would help me stay motivated as I tend to get lazy if I'm by myself.  So, do you have any recommendations?

God bless !

Really a great idea ! I know other forums with reading groups and it is great to read a book together and share the thoughts. I think to start with, it should be a book which everyone can easy get, perhaps a book which can be read online.

For example the Veneration of the Mother of God of St. John of Shanghai or a patristic book ?

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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 05:28:44 PM »
Jibrail,

Since you started this thread, instead of getting everyone's input (which is good and noble), why don't you just suggest something to start us off with?  Then, once we are finished, another person who was part of the reading/discussion can have the opportunity to select.  It would save a lot of time. If someone doesn't want to do it, maybe someone will suggest something he can go for.  So, Jibrail, what should we read first?  I don't care if it's fun or serious.  (I prefer serious, but it's not me suggesting, now is it?)  ;D
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2007, 06:15:58 PM »
^^Is that a triple dog dare? :D  Sorry, I watched A Christmas Story several times yesterday. 

 OK, do any y'all know a great place for Orthodox ebooks?  If so, let me know asap, otherwise I'm going with The Eucharist by Alexander Schmemann...
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2007, 06:22:01 PM »
Great idea!  It'll give us something new to talk about around here, too.  :)  Schmemann's book sounds good (especially since we own it and I've read part of it already :P).
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 06:23:54 PM »
^^Is that a triple dog dare? :D  Sorry, I watched A Christmas Story several times yesterday. 

 OK, do any y'all know a great place for Orthodox ebooks?  If so, let me know asap, otherwise I'm going with The Eucharist by Alexander Schmemann...

God bless !

I haven't the book or text yet ! I only have the book about great lent - so I can not participate.

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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2007, 07:16:07 PM »
OK, do any y'all know a great place for Orthodox ebooks?  If so, let me know asap, otherwise I'm going with The Eucharist by Alexander Schmemann...
Good choice.  I read The Eucharist years ago and this will be a good reason to re-read it.
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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 07:38:36 PM »
There seems to be a general consensus re: Schmemann's book The Eucharist.  For those of you who don't own it, can you borrow it from a friend or maybe check it out of your church's library?  The other option I found is The Divine Liturgy found at Father Alexander's site.  Thoughts?
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 09:12:48 PM »
The Eucharist by Fr. Schmemann, it is.  Now, let's set a date for when we want to start posting our thoughts.  What's a reasonable amount of time?  A week and a half?  ANd do we want to establish some pre-reading questions to think about as we read?
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 09:18:09 PM »
I'll pick it up at the library tomorrow.  It is 245 pages.  I don't think I'll really be able to contribute to the discussions as I'll probably just have time to skim the book, but I will definitely enjoy the insights that other posters offer. 

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2007, 09:26:22 PM »
I'll pick it up at the library tomorrow.  It is 245 pages.  I don't think I'll really be able to contribute to the discussions as I'll probably just have time to skim the book, but I will definitely enjoy the insights that other posters offer. 
Since you're one of the few who've travelled around the globe and seen many different liturgies esp on Mt. Athos, I hope you'll participate.
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2007, 09:28:33 PM »
How about we begin reading tomorrow (12/27/07) and then begin posting our thoughts a week from tomorrow (1/3/08)?
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2007, 09:44:35 PM »
My library doesn't have that book. But I would love to join you all on the next book. Is it possible to have about a weeks notice of the book you have chosen? Then I can either hunt down a copy to borrow or buy.
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2007, 09:54:53 PM »
I have book suggestions for the future ;D These are books I own, but haven't had a chance to read at all or lately.

Philokalia 1-4
Art of Prayer
Father Arseny: A cloud of witnesses
Father Areseny: 1893-1973: Priest, Prisoner, Spiritual Father
The Orthodox Veneration of Mary the Birthgiver of God
For the Life of the World
Finding Sanctuary: Monastic Steps for Everyday Life (this is a Catholic book, but wonderful for developing inward prayer)
The Inner Kingdom
The Way of a Pilgrim
The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church
St. Anthony of the Desert
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2007, 12:07:03 PM »
I have the book, but maybe we should give a little time to people who want to participate but need to get the book. Just a suggestion. . .
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2007, 12:12:41 PM »
I've been part of a book club before, in college, and we were given a month to read the book. That allowed plenty of time for people to buy the book if they needed to.
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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2007, 12:16:41 PM »
We should at least give 3 weeks.  A month sounds better.  For those who are anxious and will read this in a week, do a second reading, and then move on to something else that's related.  If people want heavier reading on the Eucharist, I can suggest plenty of stuff...
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2007, 01:31:38 PM »
Should we read the entire book and then talk about it or read and talk about individual chapters (there's 12 in all).  Those of you who've been in a book club before might know how best to approach this one.  Just as a suggestion though, if we decide to read the entire book and then talk about it, by the time I get to the 4th chapter, my ADD will cause me to forget what was in the 1st chapter, but I suppose I could take notes and do a lot of highlighting. ;)  What's the group concensus?
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2007, 01:56:38 PM »
Could you provide an online link to purchase the book?

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2007, 02:16:22 PM »
Could you provide an online link to purchase the book?


Try here , here. or here.
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2007, 03:00:46 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2007, 04:15:27 PM »
The book clubs I have participated with in the past read a chapter a week and discussed on a certain day. If they are short chapters we would read and discuss several chapters.

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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2007, 04:26:19 PM »
OK, so when y'all get the book let me know and we'll go from there.  I'm thinking we'll discuss a chapter every two weeks.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2007, 06:33:18 PM »
I have mine, Gabriel. :)
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2007, 06:45:21 PM »
We've got one too.
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2007, 07:37:02 PM »
Just as a thought for future readings, maybe some area related literature would be a nice break from the heavy theological works.  You can't beat Russian literature, Ivo Andric is also a fantastic read.  Or we could do a historical book, travelogues (like West or Kaplan etc).   

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2007, 07:43:08 PM »
^^I'd go for anything by Kaplan, particularly his travelogues in the Balkans.  BTW, did you get a copy of The Eucharist?
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2007, 08:01:03 PM »
^^I'd go for anything by Kaplan, particularly his travelogues in the Balkans.  BTW, did you get a copy of The Eucharist?

Yeah, it looks like it will be a good read.  Thanks for suggesting it. 

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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2007, 01:22:16 AM »
Looks as if y'all have the book and are ready to proceed?  If so, then let's plan for a discussion on the first chapter beginning Monday Jan 14th; that'll give us all two weeks to read it and formulate questions/comments.  Y'all with me?
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Re: OCNet book club?
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2007, 01:37:17 AM »
Sounds good, Jibrail!  What are we reading again?  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2007, 10:36:33 AM »
I'm very excited about this!  I'm borrowing the book from the hubby...

Question:  How does this work exactly?  Do we establish a time that we are all on the forum to discuss, or is it more like we'll ask questions and discuss starting Jan 14th until like the 16th or something, to give everyone time to get on the forum and offer questions/opinions?  How do we do this?  I've never done a book club on the internet before! 

Thanks so much for suggesting this!  I needed a little motivation to pick up some books and keep reading!

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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2007, 03:34:26 PM »
Alright, we'll get cracking on it!  :)
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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2007, 05:36:10 PM »
I can setup a separate sub-forum for the book club. However, it would require a moderator who would need to check-in very regularly among other responsibilities.

I'm assuming EofK?

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« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2007, 05:50:21 PM »
Sure, I can do that. :)
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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2008, 01:33:32 PM »
Will someone be posting a link to where this forum will be (I'm still finding my way around here. . .)? Thanks!
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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2008, 03:01:38 PM »
Robert, any developments on this?  I haven't seen it unless I'm just blind.  :P
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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2008, 04:55:22 PM »
Sorry, I've been a slacker lately.

I just set up the forum as a child of "Reviews".  I'd suggest posting a sticky describing the current book of the month.

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« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2008, 04:55:52 PM »
No problem  ;D  Thanks!
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« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2008, 02:36:47 PM »
Yes, thank you!
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« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2008, 10:08:21 PM »
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I've really fallen off the wagon on reading our book.  Has anyone read chapter two yet?
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