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The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« on: December 22, 2007, 01:15:41 PM »
Just curious for all you chanters and readers out there.  How many of you read/chant the Eclogarion immediately after the Polyeleos for 1st and 2nd class feasts at Orthros/Matins?  I read the Eclogarion for Nativity and it is wonderful and I would like to incorporate at least a select number of verses after the Polyeleos.  If you do not, may I ask why?

Also, does anyone know what tone the eclogaria are to be chanted?  The same as the Polyeleos (Tones 1 and 5)?

One more thing, if the Eclogarion were omitted for a 1st or 2nd class feast (for time, or for whatever reason), should a Glory...Both now still be chanted with the three fold alleulia?
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Re: The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 10:19:04 PM »
What is an "eclogarion?"
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Re: The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 03:54:02 PM »
What is an "eclogarion?"

The Eclogaria are poetic compositions which contain both psalm verses and also hymns to the feast that is being celebrated at the time.  The 1st Kathisma "Blessed is the Man" and the Polyeleos (Psalms 134 and 135), the anti-Polyeleos for Mother of God feasts (Psalm 44) and Psalm 136, "By the waters of Babylon" are also included in this collection.  They are prescribed for 1st and 2nd class feasts as well as some other commemorations and are to be sung at Matins after the Great Polyeleos (Ps. 134 and 135).
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Re: The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 07:41:06 PM »
Also, does anyone know what tone the eclogaria are to be chanted?  The same as the Polyeleos (Tones 1 and 5)?

One more thing, if the Eclogarion were omitted for a 1st or 2nd class feast (for time, or for whatever reason), should a Glory...Both now still be chanted with the three fold alleulia?
The Eclogaria are usually chanted in a very fast, simple version in the tone used for the Polyeleos.

The Glory... Both with the 3 fold Alleluia should always be chanted at the end of psalm selections.
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Re: The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2007, 04:22:29 PM »
In the practice at my parish, on these feast days, after the Kathismata, we usually jump right into the Polyeleos.
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Re: The Eclogarion after the Polyeleos
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 12:42:43 AM »
In the practice at my parish, on these feast days, after the Kathismata, we usually jump right into the Polyeleos.
As do we.  The eclogarion follows the Polyeleos.  May I assume then that this is not read/chanted at your parish then?
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