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« on: September 29, 2007, 03:19:14 AM »

Help!

I want to learn the Divine Liturgy in Russian but cant because i dont know where to search...
Please help..
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 05:52:13 AM »

Russian? You mean Slavonic, right?
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 09:08:33 AM »

Dear Sohma_Hatori,

Aristokles is right; it is very difficult to find the text of the Divine Liturgy in modern Russian. I am sure it exists, but it will take a lot of time and effort to find it on the Internet or elsewhere.

If you are interested in the text of "Bozhestvennyaya Liturgiya" in Old Church Slavonic, here's one good site:

http://www.liturgy.ru/

In the upper left corner, you can find links to texts of Proskomede, Divine Liturgy, various troparions, kontakions, etc., in Old Church Slavonic.

All people who speak fluent Russian can understand the meaning of these texts, although the difference between the language in which they were written and the modern Russian language is substantial.

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 09:31:55 AM »

Also:
http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/liturgy_e.htm

Somewhere else I got some pfd's, bilingual English/Slavonic...now just to remember from where I grabbed them... Embarrassed
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 08:53:28 PM »

Thanks, I'll do what I can translating the cyrillic alphabet on the pages you have given me...

Thanks so much
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 10:29:23 PM »

Heorhij,

How did they handle older Slavic texts when you were in school ( for instance Слово о полко Игореве)?  Did you read those works in a modern translation or were there textbooks and courses available to teach older forms of East Slavic/ Russian / Ukrainian?  I've been trying to find an actual coursebook for this for some time; all I can find are grammars, which are only so useful.   
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 12:45:11 PM »

Nektarios,  look here   http://litopys.org.ua/

You can go on yandex.ru (Russian search machine) and put on Russian -  Лаврентьевская, Ипатьевская, Новгородская первая летописи   or if you want    Слово о полку Игореве
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 04:36:15 PM »

Dear Nektarios, I am so sorry, I missed your question! My answer is, at my secondary school, we read a modern Russian translation of the "Slovo," with just a few quotes in the original Slavonic. Also, it was mentioned in our Ukrainian Literature class, and we read parts of a modern Ukrainian translation, as I recall. At my university (Kiev Medical Institute) there were no classes that would teach mediaeval Slavic literatures.

Galina-Volga, thank you so much for the link! Чи Ви часом нe українка? Приємно познайомитися!
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 05:42:24 PM »

Heorhij, priyatno poznakomit'sya tozhe!

Ne, ya russkaya (hotya praded byl s' Har'kovs'ki gubernii). Staroslavyanskij uchila v Tver State University (filologicheskij fakul'tet, special'nost' russkij yazyk i literatura), no ya iz teh specov, kotoryh nazyvayt filOluhami.  laugh
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 06:06:41 PM »

Cпасибо за "clarification" (у мeня нeт твeрдого знака на клавиатурe, а ковeркать русскоe слово нe хочу). Я киeвлянин родом, и для мeня украинский и русский одинаково родныe языки. Родитeли были росскоязычныe, дeд украиноязычный (урожeнeц гоголeвских Вeликих Cорочинцeв). Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 07:04:23 PM »

For those who interested in to learn Church Slavonic grammar. There is a good book  written by Abp. Alypy (Gamanovich) "Grammar of the Church Slavonic Language" . You can order it from St.John of Kronstadt Press 
http://www.sjkp.org/
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 09:11:33 PM »

Text of Liturgies in modern Russian can be found here:
http://wertograd.narod.ru/litur/lit.htm

The translator is Fr. Hieromonk Ambrose (Timrot).
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