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« on: December 06, 2007, 10:49:47 AM »

 Trips to Lourdes to cut time spent in purgatory

Last Updated: 3:16am GMT 06/12/2007

Pope Benedict XVI is offering relief from purgatory to Roman Catholics who travel to Lourdes over the next year, the Vatican said yesterday.
    
Pilgrims to the shrine in south-west France will receive "plenary indulgences" from the Pontiff, which the Church says reduce the time spent being "washed" of sin after death. The indulgences will be available from this weekend until Dec 8, 2008.

The Church teaches that people who do not go directly to heaven must spend time in purgatory, where they can be purified of residual sin.

It is the latest initiative to get more pilgrims to the shrine, famous for the reported healing properties of its water. In August the Vatican opened an airline service offering pilgrims direct flights from Rome to Lourdes.

For those who cannot make the journey to France, the Pope will also grant indulgences to Catholics who pray at places of worship dedicated to the Madonna of Lourdes from Feb 2 to Feb 11. Indulgences may also be granted under special circumstances to people too sick to visit the shrine, the Vatican said.

The offer comes as the shrine prepares to commemorate the 150th anniversary of when the Madonna was said to have appeared to a peasant girl in 1858.

The Pope is expected to visit next year, possibly in September or October.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/06/wpope106.xml
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 12:03:24 PM »

Trips to Lourdes to cut time spent in purgatory

Last Updated: 3:16am GMT 06/12/2007

Pope Benedict XVI is offering relief from purgatory to Roman Catholics who travel to Lourdes over the next year, the Vatican said yesterday.
    
Pilgrims to the shrine in south-west France will receive "plenary indulgences" from the Pontiff, which the Church says reduce the time spent being "washed" of sin after death. The indulgences will be available from this weekend until Dec 8, 2008.

The Church teaches that people who do not go directly to heaven must spend time in purgatory, where they can be purified of residual sin.

It is the latest initiative to get more pilgrims to the shrine, famous for the reported healing properties of its water. In August the Vatican opened an airline service offering pilgrims direct flights from Rome to Lourdes.

For those who cannot make the journey to France, the Pope will also grant indulgences to Catholics who pray at places of worship dedicated to the Madonna of Lourdes from Feb 2 to Feb 11. Indulgences may also be granted under special circumstances to people too sick to visit the shrine, the Vatican said.

The offer comes as the shrine prepares to commemorate the 150th anniversary of when the Madonna was said to have appeared to a peasant girl in 1858.

The Pope is expected to visit next year, possibly in September or October.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/06/wpope106.xml

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 12:07:13 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 12:15:57 PM »

Trips to Lourdes to cut time spent in purgatory

Okay, just reading the title was enough to tell me that this article is not worth reading.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 12:20:13 PM »

It is the latest initiative to get more pilgrims to the shrine

Right. 6 million pilgrims a year isn't enough.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 12:32:44 PM »

The decree itself is only up in Italian and Latin (so far) on the Holy See's website, so the Catholic News Service report will have to do:


Pope OKs plenary indulgence for Lourdes' 150th anniversary

By Carol Glatz
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- To mark the 150th anniversary of Mary's appearance to St. Bernadette Soubirous near Lourdes, France, Pope Benedict XVI authorized a special indulgence to encourage renewed holiness.


Catholics can receive a plenary indulgence for taking part in any public or private devotion to Our Lady of Lourdes, said U.S. Cardinal J. Francis Stafford, head of the Apostolic Penitentiary, a Vatican court dealing with indulgences and matters of conscience.

As Christians strive to become more holy, they can look to Mary who "calls the faithful to her son and his sacrifice and to the love of the Father," said the cardinal, quoting from "Lumen Gentium," the Second Vatican Council's Dogmatic Constitution on the Church.

The Vatican published the cardinal's statement announcing the indulgence and outlining the requirements for receiving it Dec. 5.

An indulgence is a remission of the temporal punishment due for sins committed. A plenary indulgence is the remission of all punishment.

Cardinal Stafford said the indulgence can also be applied to the souls of the faithful in purgatory.

Catholics can receive the indulgence during two time frames.

Pilgrims visiting the Massabielle grotto, where Mary appeared to St. Bernadette, can receive the indulgence during the Lourdes jubilee year, which runs from Dec. 8, the feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, until Dec. 8, 2008.

Pilgrims who visit any public sanctuary, shrine or other worthy place dedicated to Our Lady of Lourdes may receive the indulgence Feb. 2-11. Feb. 11 is the day the first of 18 apparitions occurred and is the feast of Our Lady of Lourdes. Feb. 2 is the feast of the Presentation of the Lord.

Cardinal Stafford said that to obtain the special indulgence one must fulfill the normal requirements set by the church for all plenary indulgences; these include the person going to confession within a reasonably short period of time, receiving the Eucharist and praying for the intentions of the pope, all in a spirit of total detachment from the attraction of sin.

Those who make a pilgrimage to Lourdes must visit the following sites, preferably in this order:

-- The parish where St. Bernadette was baptized.

-- The Soubirous family home.

-- The Massabielle grotto.

-- The chapel where St. Bernadette received her first Communion.

At each location the faithful should end their meditation by praying the Lord's Prayer, the creed and the special jubilee prayer or a prayer to Mary.

Those visiting a holy place dedicated to Our Lady of Lourdes in another part of the world Feb. 2-11 also should pray the Lord's Prayer, the creed and the special jubilee prayer or a prayer to Mary.

Catholics who cannot visit Lourdes or join a communal service dedicated to Our Lady of Lourdes because of illness or other serious reason could still earn the indulgence "in their own home or wherever they are" Feb. 2-11, Cardinal Stafford said.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0706938.htm

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Decree in Latin
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/tribunals/apost_penit/documents/rc_trib_appen_doc_20071121_decreto-lourdes_lt.html

Decree in Italian
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/tribunals/apost_penit/documents/rc_trib_appen_doc_20071121_decreto-lourdes_it.html
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 12:52:59 PM »

I am so glad to see something that will bring the Catholic and Orthodox closer together  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 01:43:30 PM »

A great marketing plan.  We should do the same.  Our  EP can organize something similiar to Jerusalem.  That's probably why Theophilus is there this week receiving his later orders. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 02:24:35 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2007, 07:22:41 PM »

What is the Orthodox understanding of the Bishops' power to Bind and Loose on Earth and in Heaven?  Huh

I believe its one of shared keys. Or duplicate copies if you will. I think Holy Scripture shows them being given to Peter but also being shared by the twelve.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2007, 12:50:27 AM »

Ah, sighs of yearning. Don't worry, George, all you have to do is come into communion with the Holy See and you can avail yourself of their graces.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2007, 12:54:41 AM »

Oops! Wrong one. Forgot there were two indulgence threads!  Embarrassed
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2007, 08:44:43 PM »

There is nothing so charming as copy and past apologetics.  Christodoulos has found his match. 

Ah yes, Scripture Catholics, an old favourite of mine.   Tongue

Remeber all, there is a thread in the Orthodox-Catholic section too, where it is open to debate, inquiry, etc.  Click here for it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 10:07:15 PM »

I have split off the tangent arguing about Indulgences and Purgatory from this thread and merged them with this thread: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13820.0.html

I have also temporarily locked this thread until people work out where to post there arguments on the tangent topic.

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