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Offline Gordon Ramsay

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Why are the Odes skipped?
« on: Yesterday at 03:36:28 AM »
When chanting the Small Paraklesis at our church, I notice we skip the Odes. Is there any particular reason as I personally love some of the Odes.

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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 03:50:57 AM »
As in all of the odes?  What would be left? 


Or just some of the odes?  Could simply be parish time constraints.  Not a good excuse, since it's not a long service anyway, but you never know.
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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 03:57:25 AM »
As in all of the odes?  What would be left? 


Or just some of the odes?  Could simply be parish time constraints.  Not a good excuse, since it's not a long service anyway, but you never know.

For example in Ode 1: "Traversing the water as on dry land, and thereby escaping from the toils of Egypt's land..."

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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:22:35 AM »
How odd.  I'm not sure why any of it would be skipped.  As you know, the service isn't more than an hour or so.
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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 04:29:33 AM »
How odd.  I'm not sure why any of it would be skipped.  As you know, the service isn't more than an hour or so.

Yep, wouldn't add more than all together another 2-3 minutes on.

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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 08:07:46 AM »
I have heard that, according to some, the irmoi are supposed to be sung only at Matins since they are based on the biblical odes sung during Great Lent. They are commonly used at other services, but whether that's "correct" or not, I don't know.
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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:39:08 AM »
So my priest said we skip it since we've always skipped. I was a bit disappointed since the Odes are beautiful.

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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:47:01 AM »
"We've always done it this way!"
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Re: Why are the Odes skipped?
« Reply #8 on: Today at 01:55:31 AM »
"We've always done it this way!"

Haha it's a bummer man, I love the Odes. I also wanted to use the HTM Prayerbook version when I'm supposed to chant, but can't. :(