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Four-Square Churches
« on: November 25, 2007, 11:40:39 PM »
Anyone know anything about them?  Both theology and liturgical practice (or lack thereof).  Just curious

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 11:49:17 PM »
Anyone know anything about them?  Both theology and liturgical practice (or lack thereof).  Just curious
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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 08:20:25 PM »
Foursquare was started by the women evanglist aforementioned.  It has the same basic beliefs as the Assembly of God--Trinitarian, fundamentalist, Pentecostal.  From my experience with them, I saw no liturgical bent whatsoever.  They have pretty typical Pentecostal Protestant type services.

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2007, 08:40:05 PM »
Interesting.

Too bad it has nothing to do with the "real" Four-Square!

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 09:11:20 PM »
I should get Panagiotis to come back on here.  He was raised in Foursquare, and much of his family is still in it.
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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 09:17:15 PM »
I remember some four square out West I believe (or was it the Midwest?).  Anyway, they used to pray every Friday for guidance to be the true Church.  One day one of them brought an Orthodox Study Bible, and well, the rest of it I understand is history.
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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 06:28:17 PM »
I remember some four square out West I believe (or was it the Midwest?).  Anyway, they used to pray every Friday for guidance to be the true Church.  One day one of them brought an Orthodox Study Bible, and well, the rest of it I understand is history.

Didn't some Four-Square churches (I think it was more than one) become catechumens and later received into the Orthodox Church?

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 02:06:07 AM »
That is correct. It caused a lot of problems though and several went back to Foursquare.

As for the original poster there is a book called Foundations of Pentecostal Theology which details their belief and statement of Faith, their practice and their straight Theology that would answer any and all questions. I must warn you that most of the teaching is dispensational and eschatological Rapture Theology.

I was a licensed Minister in Foursquare and I worked at their headquarters in Los Angeles at the old bank building in Echo Park for three years. It was an experience to work along side of several of the preachers I see on TBN at times, and well it is a part of me which helped me head n the direction of Orthodoxy. I am grateful for those days as it made me who I am today.

Other than this, I rerally dont know where to begin. Could you be more specific on what you would like to know about?

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 04:07:11 AM »
That is correct. It caused a lot of problems though and several went back to Foursquare.

As for the original poster there is a book called Foundations of Pentecostal Theology which details their belief and statement of Faith, their practice and their straight Theology that would answer any and all questions. I must warn you that most of the teaching is dispensational and eschatological Rapture Theology.

I was a licensed Minister in Foursquare and I worked at their headquarters in Los Angeles at the old bank building in Echo Park for three years. It was an experience to work along side of several of the preachers I see on TBN at times, and well it is a part of me which helped me head n the direction of Orthodoxy. I am grateful for those days as it made me who I am today.

Other than this, I rerally dont know where to begin. Could you be more specific on what you would like to know about?

Blessings,
Panagiotis

Nothing specifc...I have a coworker that goes to one with his family.  He is a rather quiet person - very humble type.  The company Prez/owner is a newly illumined at my parish (evidently his grandma is a founding member) and brought this coworker to a service (either I wasn't there or didn't notice or remember him).  I guess he stayed for the whole thing, but don't know much else.  Just general curiousity.

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 05:48:04 PM »
Well, most of them are pre-tribulationist; heavy rapture theology controls the majority of their doctrinal approaches.

Another note is their inclination towards the gifts of prophesy and their interpretation of glossalalia. Their teaching on the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit is held in high regard, almost as if it is parallal to the Sacred Scripture. Their passion for a spiritual word from God, even when it contradicts Sacred Scripture overrides doctrinal teaching at times. It is interesting to note that when someone "receives" a prophetic word from God and spoken in a service aloud, that this prophesy is given as a forecoming of either events to come, a healing, a restoration of some sort or a caution for someone to take heed to. This type of service is very emotional and the passions are extremely indulged by the sense of something very spiritual. This type of service attracts those who have never felt the presence of God nor have partaken of the Mysteries of Christ.

Foursquare is a emotional rollercoaster. The service are extremely emotional, very massive in its worship services which include modern music, very "charismatic" i.e. lifting up of hands, tongue speaking at times, even singing in tongues, and is led by either the Pastor or the music director who leads the congregation through hypnotic words and emotionally driven music. It can be a drug, an opiate of the masses. After this worship service comes the Pastoral teaching(Sola-Scriptura, Arminianist mostly, some Calvinism, its really a mixture of what feels right for each individual) and then a closing worship time afterwards. This is typically seen in most cases as the norm.

Very emotional-
Many people are devoted to this because it gives them a sense of being personal with God, the feeling of being able to stand before God and bow down at His feet as many of the songs sang in the movement speak of doing such things.

I can only tell you my experiences with it, as I left it almost ten years ago and I had no congregation I was in charge of at the time I left.

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Re: Four-Square Churches
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2007, 11:59:26 PM »
I finally located a link that I saw long ago.  It is a former 4square minister who is now an Orthodox clergyman. 

Dennis Corrigan, Recovering the Ancient Paths (former Foursquare Pentecostal) http://www.philthompson.net/pages/becoming/ancientpaths.html