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Offline jaderook

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2007, 11:05:42 PM »
Take the last word, then ask me not to reply? Eh, I guess so in this case...I'm feeling more charitable than most nights. ;)

As for my spelling, reading through the paragraph you were referencing I had to read it twice to make sense of it, it was pretty bad; but, in my defence, look at the time stamp on it, by that time my hours of sobriety were long past. ;D

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2007, 01:50:37 AM »
From what I read, this movie just did 'okay' in the theaters but did not rise to the level of Lord of the Rings or Narnia on opening weekend.
Hopefully, this will mean there will be no sequels. :P
If everyone just ignores it, maybe it will just go away... 8)

An interesting review can be read at Orthodoxy Today: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles7/MorelliSmartParentingVII.php

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2007, 02:07:15 AM »
From what I read, this movie just did 'okay' in the theaters but did not rise to the level of Lord of the Rings or Narnia on opening weekend.
Hopefully, this will mean there will be no sequels. :P
If everyone just ignores it, maybe it will just go away... 8)

I think it would be hard-pressed to approach either.  They are both of a much higher quality of literature...or so the "experts" say.

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2007, 10:28:30 AM »
$26 million s**ks for a film with this kind of budget. Hopefully it drops off sharply next weekend.

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2007, 12:28:13 PM »
$26 million s**ks for a film with this kind of budget. Hopefully it drops off sharply next weekend.

Lubeltri,

The movie industry has had a bad year  :D :D :D
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of pseudo copycat artists  :P.
We should ignore (not boycott, just ignore) all the trash they put out in the theaters and on TV so they will go out of business. Then maybe an intelligent group of filmmakers and those who are truly creative will realize the people are tired of immoral, moronic, and uninspiring garbage.

Narnia made 65 million in the first weekend. People stood after the movie was over and cheered. We know what we want and it isn't want Hollywood has been producing.
 


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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2007, 12:57:05 PM »
Lubeltri,

The movie industry has had a bad year  :D :D :D
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of pseudo copycat artists  :P.
We should ignore (not boycott, just ignore) all the trash they put out in the theaters and on TV so they will go out of business. Then maybe an intelligent group of filmmakers and those who are truly creative will realize the people are tired of immoral, moronic, and uninspiring garbage.

Narnia made 65 million in the first weekend. People stood after the movie was over and cheered. We know what we want and it isn't want Hollywood has been producing.
 

Agreed! So ironic that New Line has been marketing it as another Narnia or Lord of the Rings! It couldn't be further from the truth, and I think most people can see through the facade.

I say let the writer's strike continue!

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2007, 01:05:34 PM »
Agreed! So ironic that New Line has been marketing it as another Narnia or Lord of the Rings! It couldn't be further from the truth, and I think most people can see through the facade.

I say let the writer's strike continue!

The writer's strike has been a blessing.... :D :D :D

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2007, 10:39:09 AM »
Grace and Peace,

So, long story short, I shouldn't take my 5 year old daughter to see this film?
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2007, 12:44:14 PM »
Hello,

I think that this quote from Pullman himself says it all:

"I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief"
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2007, 01:47:32 PM »
Grace and Peace,

So, long story short, I shouldn't take my 5 year old daughter to see this film?

I think a 5 year old might be a little frightened by the battle scenes.  Personally, I always found bears to be really scary and all the armored polar bears would have been too much for me.
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2007, 01:59:51 PM »
Grace and Peace,

So, long story short, I shouldn't take my 5 year old daughter to see this film?

I wouldn't give her any reason to read the books when she is a little older.

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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2007, 02:38:58 PM »
According to the BBC, the movie's take in the opening weekend disappointed the studio.  If it continues to do poorly, I'm sure market forces will keep the sequels from being made (or at least being made by a major studio and given major attention).
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2007, 03:10:32 PM »
From what I understand, even fans of the books think the film version is bad.

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« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2007, 04:04:10 PM »
Pullman has backpedaled about the anti-religion aspects of his books. Even National Public Radio had a review about how the movie was changed in order to be less controversial. The reviewer spoke about making the Magisterium being secular (in the book it is clearly a branch of the "church").

For any who are interested, here is a link to an interview with Pullman and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams. In the interview he talks about the church in the books.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2004/03/17/bodark17.xml
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2007, 04:32:22 PM »
Pullman has backpedaled about the anti-religion aspects of his books. Even National Public Radio had a review about how the movie was changed in order to be less controversial. The reviewer spoke about making the Magisterium being secular (in the book it is clearly a branch of the "church"). 

Here's my question: reading reviews of the books, it seems that the sequels (covering the second and third books of the series) cannot have the anti-religious aspects toned down without changing the story; so is it possible, or is he pandering to the Christian population?
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« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2007, 05:00:17 PM »
The reviewer said that he couldn't see how there would be a second or third movie because of the anti-religious themes. I'm supposing that he is pandering to the Christian population--at least as far as necessary to make the film sucessful. Aparently he would have similar mollifying remarks if/when the other films come around.

Personally, I've read the entire series, and do not think the series or the movies would be appropriate for children, especially when there's all sorts of wonderful literature to choose instead.
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2007, 05:14:40 PM »
The reviewer said that he couldn't see how there would be a second or third movie because of the anti-religious themes. I'm supposing that he is pandering to the Christian population--at least as far as necessary to make the film sucessful. Aparently he would have similar mollifying remarks if/when the other films come around.

They could have gotten away with it if this first one was some sort of runaway success.  However, I think people view it as a Narnia/LOTR knock-off (rightly or wrongly), nad the box office numbers weren't that good considering the cost of the film ($180 million expenses, only $26 million grossed in the first week, under 15% of the expenses, which is not good for a big-studio film).
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Re: The Golden Compass movie: mainstream paganism propaganda to the max
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2007, 05:44:37 PM »
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It sounds like a culture-war set piece: Hollywood rolls out a religious-themed Christmas blockbuster and conservative believers go ballistic. That was the story this weekend with the release of "The Golden Compass."

Based on the wildly popular fantasy novels by British author Philip Pullman, a famously outspoken atheist, the film casts God and the Church as evildoers. Or does it?

Some have called for a boycott of the film. But Pullman fans say the movie lacks the deeper spiritual meaning of the books.

This hour, On Point: the storm surrounding "The Golden Compass."
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