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BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:59:51 PM »
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Re: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 08:50:07 AM »
Interesting indeed, that they feel that working with adult cells "has more potential" than embryonic stem cells, even though they admit that the stem cells are more flexible.

Methinks that, just as with the push for research into alternative fuels, searching for alternatives for embryonic stem cells for variety and viability of research rather than for moral reasons has a better prospect for sustainability.
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Re: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 01:40:10 PM »
Interesting indeed, that they feel that working with adult cells "has more potential" than embryonic stem cells, even though they admit that the stem cells are more flexible.

Methinks that, just as with the push for research into alternative fuels, searching for alternatives for embryonic stem cells for variety and viability of research rather than for moral reasons has a better prospect for sustainability.

Actually it's even better than that.  What he's talking about is the "dedifferentiation" of somatic cells, like skins cells INTO embryonic-like stem cells.  Last year, Japanese scientists figured out how to "dedifferentiate" cells, a huge leap forward, instead of the hassle in looking for embryonic or adult stem cells.

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Re: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 02:16:05 PM »
The BBC just posted this, even though this was published and made known among scientists last year:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7101834.stm

In all fairness, I think they should concentrate on these though:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6231099.stm

The former dedifferentiation technique seems to be done in a way that can also produce cancer cells.
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Re: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 02:29:04 PM »
The former dedifferentiation technique seems to be done in a way that can also produce cancer cells. 

The former method may leave a wider window for cancer or viral mutation, but the latter is very difficult to come by - how many pregnant women will have amniotic fluid drawn to supply the necessary research and, later, procedures?
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Re: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2007, 01:13:43 PM »
dude, have you ever had amniotic drawn?  YOU volunteer! Aside from the inherent risk to the little one, it's excruciating, specially when you are one of those people that meds either don't work for or dont' take them because of risk to baby.

Not many women volunteer for pointless pain, and fewer still would be men coming forward to suffer random pain for science (assuming they could)