OrthodoxChristianity.net
July 29, 2014, 09:10:48 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Reminder: No political discussions in the public fora.  If you do not have access to the private Politics Forum, please send a PM to Fr. George.
 
   Home   Help Calendar Contact Treasury Tags Login Register  
Pages: 1   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: BBC-Dolly Scientist Abandons Cloning  (Read 1281 times) Average Rating: 0
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
minasoliman
Mr., Sir, Dude, Guy, Male, tr. Minas in Greek, Menes in white people Egyptologists :-P
Section Moderator
Merarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Oriental Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Coptic Orthodox Archdiocese of North America
Posts: 10,362


Strengthen O Lord the work of Your hands(Is 19:25)


WWW
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:59:51 PM »

Interesting tidbit:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7099758.stm

Logged

Vain existence can never exist, for \\\"unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain.\\\" (Psalm 127)

If the faith is unchanged and rock solid, then the gates of Hades never prevailed in the end.
Fr. George
formerly "Cleveland"
Administrator
Stratopedarches
*******
Online Online

Faith: Orthodox (Catholic) Christian
Jurisdiction: GOA - Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Posts: 19,966


May the Lord bless you and keep you always!


« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 08:50:07 AM »

Interesting indeed, that they feel that working with adult cells "has more potential" than embryonic stem cells, even though they admit that the stem cells are more flexible.

Methinks that, just as with the push for research into alternative fuels, searching for alternatives for embryonic stem cells for variety and viability of research rather than for moral reasons has a better prospect for sustainability.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2007, 08:52:27 AM by cleveland » Logged

"The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the one who can't read them." Mark Twain
---------------------
Ordained on 17 & 18-Oct 2009. Please forgive me if earlier posts are poorly worded or incorrect in any way.
minasoliman
Mr., Sir, Dude, Guy, Male, tr. Minas in Greek, Menes in white people Egyptologists :-P
Section Moderator
Merarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Oriental Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Coptic Orthodox Archdiocese of North America
Posts: 10,362


Strengthen O Lord the work of Your hands(Is 19:25)


WWW
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 01:40:10 PM »

Interesting indeed, that they feel that working with adult cells "has more potential" than embryonic stem cells, even though they admit that the stem cells are more flexible.

Methinks that, just as with the push for research into alternative fuels, searching for alternatives for embryonic stem cells for variety and viability of research rather than for moral reasons has a better prospect for sustainability.

Actually it's even better than that.  What he's talking about is the "dedifferentiation" of somatic cells, like skins cells INTO embryonic-like stem cells.  Last year, Japanese scientists figured out how to "dedifferentiate" cells, a huge leap forward, instead of the hassle in looking for embryonic or adult stem cells.

God bless.
Logged

Vain existence can never exist, for \\\"unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain.\\\" (Psalm 127)

If the faith is unchanged and rock solid, then the gates of Hades never prevailed in the end.
minasoliman
Mr., Sir, Dude, Guy, Male, tr. Minas in Greek, Menes in white people Egyptologists :-P
Section Moderator
Merarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Oriental Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Coptic Orthodox Archdiocese of North America
Posts: 10,362


Strengthen O Lord the work of Your hands(Is 19:25)


WWW
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 02:16:05 PM »

The BBC just posted this, even though this was published and made known among scientists last year:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7101834.stm

In all fairness, I think they should concentrate on these though:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6231099.stm

The former dedifferentiation technique seems to be done in a way that can also produce cancer cells.
Logged

Vain existence can never exist, for \\\"unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain.\\\" (Psalm 127)

If the faith is unchanged and rock solid, then the gates of Hades never prevailed in the end.
Fr. George
formerly "Cleveland"
Administrator
Stratopedarches
*******
Online Online

Faith: Orthodox (Catholic) Christian
Jurisdiction: GOA - Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Posts: 19,966


May the Lord bless you and keep you always!


« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 02:29:04 PM »

The former dedifferentiation technique seems to be done in a way that can also produce cancer cells. 

The former method may leave a wider window for cancer or viral mutation, but the latter is very difficult to come by - how many pregnant women will have amniotic fluid drawn to supply the necessary research and, later, procedures?
Logged

"The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the one who can't read them." Mark Twain
---------------------
Ordained on 17 & 18-Oct 2009. Please forgive me if earlier posts are poorly worded or incorrect in any way.
calligraphqueen
Elder
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: GOA
Posts: 341


« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2007, 01:13:43 PM »

dude, have you ever had amniotic drawn?  YOU volunteer! Aside from the inherent risk to the little one, it's excruciating, specially when you are one of those people that meds either don't work for or dont' take them because of risk to baby.

Not many women volunteer for pointless pain, and fewer still would be men coming forward to suffer random pain for science (assuming they could)
Logged
Tags: cloning  stem cells 
Pages: 1   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.044 seconds with 33 queries.