OrthodoxChristianity.net
September 20, 2014, 03:57:26 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Reminder: No political discussions in the public fora.  If you do not have access to the private Politics Forum, please send a PM to Fr. George.
 
   Home   Help Calendar Contact Treasury Tags Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 »   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: catholic answers forum bars orthodox dicussion  (Read 271110 times) Average Rating: 0
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Marc1152
Toumarches
************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Rocor
Posts: 12,820


Probiotic .. Antibiotic


« Reply #315 on: November 15, 2007, 03:06:29 PM »

Even though I am banned from CAF ( you would think I would have least gotten one warning !) I am still able to read the threads through a back door (I cant post)

There is a new thread "How would you feel if the Eastern and Western Churches were united" and there is a poll attached to it. All the Catholics who took the poll would "Be happy" except for one or two folks. The funny part is that absolutely no Orthdox voted in the poll. I guess that's what happens when you ban people..Duh
Logged

Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm
Marc1152
Toumarches
************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Rocor
Posts: 12,820


Probiotic .. Antibiotic


« Reply #316 on: November 15, 2007, 03:08:31 PM »

Has it occurred to you guys that the Administrators of CAF may be reading this site?
Given what has happened already, do you think it may be possible that people may be banned from CAF because of what is written here?

Okay... I am going to duct tape up all the windows, fill my pots and pans with reserve water supplies and sleep with my gun.
Logged

Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm
ozgeorge
I'll take you for who you are if you take me for everything.
Hoplitarches
*************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Oecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the New Rome, the Great Church of Christ.
Posts: 16,382


My plans for retirement.


WWW
« Reply #317 on: November 15, 2007, 03:16:17 PM »

Okay... I am going to duct tape up all the windows, fill my pots and pans with reserve water supplies and sleep with my gun.

Well, I suppose you could do that if you wished, but I was thinking more along the lines of stealth- you know: "gentle as doves and cunning as snakes". Every occupied country during the Nazi era had an organised, underground.
<cough> pm system <cough>
Take it from someone who belongs to an underground political resistance group in Australia. Wink
Logged

If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
stashko
Protokentarchos
*********
Offline Offline

Faith: ИСТОЧНИ ПРАВОСЛАВНИ СРБИН
Jurisdiction: Non Ecumenist Free Serbian Orthodox Church
Posts: 4,998


Wonderworking Sitka Icon


« Reply #318 on: November 15, 2007, 03:18:33 PM »

Iwas visiting brother zaphod yahoo ..easternorthodox.orthodoxy,  forum that he setup ,,,i advise people to stay away from it...it's swamped with viagra adds ..once they snag your e-mail address they will overwhelm your inbox with those adds ,,like there doing in mine now ...friendly advice ....stashko Grin
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 04:00:06 PM by stashko » Logged

ГОСПОДЕ ГОСПОДЕ ,ПОГЛЕДАЈ СА НЕБА ,ДОЂИ И ПОСЕТИ ТВОЈ ВИНОГРАД ТВОЈА ДЕСНИЦА ПОСАДИЛА АМИН АМИН.
Ziggernaut
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Member
***
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Antiochian
Posts: 93


« Reply #319 on: November 15, 2007, 03:45:06 PM »

Well, I suppose you could do that if you wished, but I was thinking more along the lines of stealth- you know: "gentle as doves and cunning as snakes". Every occupied country during the Nazi era had an organised, underground.
<cough> pm system <cough>
Take it from someone who belongs to an underground political resistance group in Australia. Wink


 Huh

Care to elaborate? Not about the Nazi's, but what you had in mind. (If it's obvious, and I missed it, please forgive my simple-mindedness!)

God Bless,
Jeff
Logged

"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."  Augustine of Hippo
Irish Hermit
Kibernetski Kaludjer
Warned
Merarches
***********
Offline Offline

Posts: 10,991


Holy Father Patrick, pray for us


« Reply #320 on: November 15, 2007, 03:46:18 PM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.  

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose



« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 03:58:44 PM by Irish Hermit » Logged
Mickey
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Holy Orthodoxy
Posts: 1,309



« Reply #321 on: November 15, 2007, 03:54:22 PM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.
Alas, our mentor has returned!  Grin 


Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring,
Glory be to God!
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 03:54:44 PM by Mickey » Logged
ozgeorge
I'll take you for who you are if you take me for everything.
Hoplitarches
*************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Oecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the New Rome, the Great Church of Christ.
Posts: 16,382


My plans for retirement.


WWW
« Reply #322 on: November 15, 2007, 03:59:10 PM »

Huh

Care to elaborate? Not about the Nazi's, but what you had in mind. (If it's obvious, and I missed it, please forgive my simple-mindedness!)

God Bless,
Jeff
No problem.
At the moment, there are about 30 of you here. Those of you who know each other should organize yourselves into a "contact chain". Each person in the chain is responsible for contacting 5 other people in the chain. One person (the "Anchor") acts as the initiator of the chain. That way, if there is a message you need to pass on to the others which you do not want CAF to see, the process is:

1) You send the message via the OCnet private messaging stsystem to the Anchor,

2) The Anchor forwards it to their 5 contacts (6 people now know the message)

3) Each of those 5 contacts forward it to their 5 contacts (31 people now know the message)
and so on.......
Logged

If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
Irish Hermit
Kibernetski Kaludjer
Warned
Merarches
***********
Offline Offline

Posts: 10,991


Holy Father Patrick, pray for us


« Reply #323 on: November 15, 2007, 04:08:54 PM »

It's a lamentable state of affairs when extreme measures are taken to purge vigorous dialogue, moderators are "retired" under mysterious circumstances and an entire forum replete with great bits of information is whisked away to cyber-purgatory, it seems, for more 'purification'.
Your series of contributions on the attitude of the early Church Fathers on the purpose of marriage were of enormous worth.  I hope you have it tucked away safely.

I have discovered that if you feed the right words into Google.com it will bring up its own archived messages from CAF.
Logged
Anastasios
Webdespota
Administrator
Merarches
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Greek Old Calendarist
Posts: 10,444


Metropolitan Chrysostomos of Florina

anastasios0513
WWW
« Reply #324 on: November 15, 2007, 04:21:20 PM »

Your series of contributions on the attitude of the early Church Fathers on the purpose of marriage were of enormous worth.  I hope you have it tucked away safely.

I have discovered that if you feed the right words into Google.com it will bring up its own archived messages from CAF.

Save those as they can get them purged if they are that vindictive. Also, they may automatically be purged the next time the google bots scan the site and find those threads gone.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 04:21:58 PM by Anastasios » Logged

Please Buy My Book!

Disclaimer: Past posts reflect stages of my life before my baptism may not be accurate expositions of Orthodo
Ziggernaut
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Member
***
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Antiochian
Posts: 93


« Reply #325 on: November 15, 2007, 04:21:55 PM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.  

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose





Bless Father,

How wonderful to see you here!  Smiley Smiley

I'm looking forward to a post count surpassing your feat at CAF  Grin!

What a great waste and shame that all those have been deposited in their Secret Archives.

God bless you,
Jeff
Logged

"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."  Augustine of Hippo
brittrossiter
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 64


jasonrossiter
WWW
« Reply #326 on: November 15, 2007, 04:23:08 PM »

Has it occurred to you guys that the Administrators of CAF may be reading this site?
Given what has happened already, do you think it may be possible that people may be banned from CAF because of what is written here?

If they did that, it would be a bit difficult for them to rationalize the banning as a supposed violation of the CAF forum rules.   Roll Eyes
Logged
GiC
Resident Atheist
Site Supporter
Merarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Mathematician
Posts: 9,490



« Reply #327 on: November 15, 2007, 04:29:39 PM »

No problem.
At the moment, there are about 30 of you here. Those of you who know each other should organize yourselves into a "contact chain". Each person in the chain is responsible for contacting 5 other people in the chain. One person (the "Anchor") acts as the initiator of the chain. That way, if there is a message you need to pass on to the others which you do not want CAF to see, the process is:

1) You send the message via the OCnet private messaging stsystem to the Anchor,

2) The Anchor forwards it to their 5 contacts (6 people now know the message)

3) Each of those 5 contacts forward it to their 5 contacts (31 people now know the message)
and so on.......

And make sure to only send using Blind Carbon Copy so fellow members of your cell cannot be identified in event of capture by the Vatican Secret Police. (Should we throw in RSA cryptography and encrypted proxies such as the tor network as well?) Grin

Your system works well if resisting a tyrannical and intrusive government like the Thrid Reich or, apparently, the Howard administration. Wink

But it might be easier for them if simply complied a list of everyone's user name and sent any message the wanted to send to everyone by putting their names on the 'to' line (assuming that the upper limit on  recipients of a pm is high enough, does anyone know what this is?). Provided there's an opt-out option (or even opt-in) for those concerned, I wouldn't imagine that this would cause a problem for anyone.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 04:33:15 PM by greekischristian » Logged

"The liberties of people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." -- Patrick Henry
ozgeorge
I'll take you for who you are if you take me for everything.
Hoplitarches
*************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Oecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the New Rome, the Great Church of Christ.
Posts: 16,382


My plans for retirement.


WWW
« Reply #328 on: November 15, 2007, 04:40:54 PM »

(assuming that the upper limit on  recipients of a pm is high enough, does anyone know what this is?).
I dunno.
Rob is the man to ask in regards to that one.
Logged

If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
JoeS
(aka StMarkEofE)
Site Supporter
OC.net guru
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Catholic
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 1,122


Global Warming Enthusiast.


« Reply #329 on: November 15, 2007, 04:51:06 PM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.  

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose





Fr. Ambrose,

Great to have the opportunity to again read and learn from your posts.

JoeS (StMarkEofE)
Logged
Quinault
Protokentarchos
*********
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Antiochian
Posts: 4,517


What about frogs? I like frogs!


« Reply #330 on: November 15, 2007, 04:59:19 PM »

Father Ambrose; it is so wonderful to "see" you again. I look forward to reading more of your posts. You have such a wonderful sense of humor and a great wealth of information and wise words. You, and many others that have regrouped here have been used greatly to help my family get on the path to becoming Orthodox.

I appreciate you all.

And my kids love the change. My oldest falls asleep at night singing the Trisagion. Grin
Logged
JoeS
(aka StMarkEofE)
Site Supporter
OC.net guru
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Catholic
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 1,122


Global Warming Enthusiast.


« Reply #331 on: November 15, 2007, 05:09:42 PM »



And my kids love the change. My oldest falls asleep at night singing the Trisagion. Grin

That is truly lovely.

JoeS
Logged
wynd
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 501


Transfiguration


« Reply #332 on: November 15, 2007, 07:08:19 PM »

Your series of contributions on the attitude of the early Church Fathers on the purpose of marriage were of enormous worth.  I hope you have it tucked away safely.

I was going to post this but forgot. Papa, do you have that anywhere?
Logged
Papa Gregorio
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Ecumenical Patriarchate
Posts: 33

St. Gregory the Great, Pope of Old Rome


« Reply #333 on: November 15, 2007, 08:15:10 PM »

Your series of contributions on the attitude of the early Church Fathers on the purpose of marriage were of enormous worth.  I hope you have it tucked away safely.

I have discovered that if you feed the right words into Google.com it will bring up its own archived messages from CAF.

Dear Fr. Ambrose,

Venerating the hand that typed so many invaluable words of knowledge and benevolence!

All of my patristic quotes, as well as my dialogue on Pope Vigilius and the 5th Ecumenical Council with mardukm, are safe with me.  police

My sincere thanks to you for your contributions over at CAF. They weren't made in vain.




« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 08:15:35 PM by Papa Gregorio » Logged
Papa Gregorio
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Ecumenical Patriarchate
Posts: 33

St. Gregory the Great, Pope of Old Rome


« Reply #334 on: November 15, 2007, 08:21:29 PM »

I was going to post this but forgot. Papa, do you have that anywhere?

I certainly do. Just let me know if you'd like me to repost anything.
Logged
Magicsilence
CAF driftwood
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 46

Maronite Catholic


« Reply #335 on: November 15, 2007, 08:27:08 PM »

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways

Fr Ambrose

He's back!!!!  Grin
Logged
RPConover
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 43


« Reply #336 on: November 15, 2007, 08:56:08 PM »

just right off the top of my head... the vast knowledge, valuable information, generosity in answering questions and Christian witness of posters like Fr, Ambrose, Hesychios, Isa Almisry and literally every other Orthodox poster on CAF led me to my decision to enter the Holy Orthodox Church. I will attest to the fact that no proselytization was involved or even necessary. So I thank God that I happened on that sub-forum and the great people who posted there, or I may never have come to know the truth of the Orthodox Church. As it is, I'm banned for life now, and didn't even get the courtesy of one warning. I want to thank all you guys too, may God bless you all. I'm thrilled to see Fr. Ambrose posting here(as is everyone else I'm sure)! God grant him many years, and thank you Father!

Logged
Athanasios
Latin Rite Catholic faithful to the Holy Father and the Magisterium
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Catholic
Jurisdiction: Latin Church Diocese of Youngstown
Posts: 1,800


The Divine Mercy


« Reply #337 on: November 15, 2007, 09:06:54 PM »

Hello,

Good to have Father Ambrose here with us! Now the party can really get started.  Grin
Logged

Through the intercession of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, may Jesus Christ bless you abundantly.

Pray that we may be one, as Christ and His Father are one. (John 17:20ff)

A.K.A. - JMJ_coder
prodromas
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Under the Green Pope
Posts: 1,239

Greek Orthodox


« Reply #338 on: November 15, 2007, 09:09:18 PM »

I have heard so much about this father Ambrose I am literally excited to hear about him. What is his background? I can't wait to see some more posts of his.
Logged

The sins I don't commit are largely due to the weakness of my limbs.

1915-1923 Հայոց Ցեղասպանութիւն ,never again,
ܩܛܠܐ ܕܥܡܐ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ 1920-1914, never again,
השואה  1933-1945, never again,
(1914-1923) Ελληνική Γενοκτονία, never again
Papist
Patriarch of Pontification
Toumarches
************
Offline Offline

Faith: Catholic
Jurisdiction: Byzantine
Posts: 12,191


Praying for the Christians in Iraq


« Reply #339 on: November 15, 2007, 09:53:33 PM »

All you need to do to find out is to round up a few of these converts and start some of the threads and see what happens...

Now of course, THAT course of action would IMPLY that you were sincere in your asking with wonder...

My suspection, however, is that your wonder was but a pot shot from a spider hole...

Please prove me wrong and start a thread with those converts here!

Arsenios
Oh give me a break. The moderators would be up in arms if i did this.
Logged

Note Papist's influence from the tyrannical monarchism of traditional papism .
GiC
Resident Atheist
Site Supporter
Merarches
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Mathematician
Posts: 9,490



« Reply #340 on: November 15, 2007, 10:10:57 PM »

Oh give me a break. The moderators would be up in arms if i did this.

This board isn't perfect, sure I've had my complaints about censorship and all, but the debates I have had are almost moot in comparison to the stunt your fellow churchmen pulled. I'd personally love it if you got your posse together and I'm sure that if you stayed to the appropriate forums we would all enjoy the open debate and free flow of information. You know how much I like taking cheap shots at you all Wink
Logged

"The liberties of people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." -- Patrick Henry
ozgeorge
I'll take you for who you are if you take me for everything.
Hoplitarches
*************
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: Oecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the New Rome, the Great Church of Christ.
Posts: 16,382


My plans for retirement.


WWW
« Reply #341 on: November 15, 2007, 10:11:26 PM »

The moderators would be up in arms if i did this.
Would they? Only one way to find out- why don't you ask us?
Logged

If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
Jakub
Archon
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2,747



« Reply #342 on: November 15, 2007, 10:40:49 PM »

The fields are ripe for harvest within the non catholic forum...
Logged

An old timer is a man who's had a lot of interesting experiences -- some of them true.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
maqhth
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Antioch
Posts: 62

"Be not troubling of you the heart..."


« Reply #343 on: November 16, 2007, 12:22:11 AM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am. 

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose

Fr. Ambrose Bless!

My joy is now full...

You are here...

I was talking last night with my friend in Phoenix, AZ, Reader Stephen-Paul [Robinson], and I asked him if he had ever heard of an Hieromonk in NZ named Fr. Ambrose, and the answer was "Yup - He's the one who just got kicked out of a Catholic forum in a major meltdown, right?"  So I confessed my part in causing that event, but the bottom line is, you are becoming famous late in your years, and I fear I am greatly to blame...

Please forgive me for petting that Roman Tom-Cat tail to head, instead of vice-versa, and being instrumental in dragging your name into the lime-light of the hall of fame of Orthodoxy...  Remember Myrrh? And your showing me that long thread in which she posted when I first came on CAF?  I came to like her a lot by reading that thread, and the work she had done, and was outraged that she had been banned because she was good at refutations...  And part of my motive for being there was to stand in and stand up for her memory and the work she had begun... I hope you are still in touch with her, and have kept her abreast of these events...  In my book, this event is a tribute to what she began...

And I am sorry that you have lost your place of "work", and the good work you were doing there...

Did you know Fr. Averky?  ROCOR hieromonk who posted for a long time on monachos, and died?  He also, like you, had medical issues that did not allow him to do much else, other than pray, and his prayers carried many of us...  As do all our prayers for one another, and yours for us...

I am glad you are here, Father...  We made a good run with you...  And some of those Eastern Christians are here too, even though the ones remaining are suffocating under the weight of the Roman Catholic presence...  I hear Ghosty, bless the radiant integrity of his soul, is about to pull out...  It is just too shameful...

We did something important there, I feel, yet I hope we as well did something good...  I pray that the shutting down of that board and the repressive actions of the RC Admins there was God's desire for us to help facilitate...  If not, it will be a long afterlife!

So welcome back to your motley crew!

Arsenios
Logged

Reader Arsenios

Watch what you do...
You may be the only Bible...
That some will ever read...
Jimmy
Maronite
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Faith: Maronite Catholic
Posts: 203


« Reply #344 on: November 16, 2007, 12:33:08 AM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.  

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose





Fr Ambrose!!!  I am glad to see you here.
Logged
Robert
"Amazing"
Archon
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2,442



« Reply #345 on: November 16, 2007, 12:46:33 AM »

And make sure to only send using Blind Carbon Copy so fellow members of your cell cannot be identified in event of capture by the Vatican Secret Police. (Should we throw in RSA cryptography and encrypted proxies such as the tor network as well?) Grin

Your system works well if resisting a tyrannical and intrusive government like the Thrid Reich or, apparently, the Howard administration. Wink

But it might be easier for them if simply complied a list of everyone's user name and sent any message the wanted to send to everyone by putting their names on the 'to' line (assuming that the upper limit on  recipients of a pm is high enough, does anyone know what this is?). Provided there's an opt-out option (or even opt-in) for those concerned, I wouldn't imagine that this would cause a problem for anyone.

While I really appreciate everyone posting here and reuniting, it was mentioned before and I need to mention again that different threads should be opened up for questions like these, only so we can respond without having to dig through posts.  We have a technical forum here which is really good for questions as such.

Thanks,
Robert
Logged
maqhth
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Antioch
Posts: 62

"Be not troubling of you the heart..."


« Reply #346 on: November 16, 2007, 01:02:59 AM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am. 

The closure of CAF's Eastern Christianity Forum was quite devastating for me and for all of us, I think, and while I am still a member there I have not had the heart to post anything.  So I took the new situation as God's indication that I should post less and get out and enjoy the Spring sunshine in New Zealand and the people on the block.

I understand the CAF's Admin's decision to close the old Forum.  Significant numbers of conversions to Orthodoxy were occuring, none of it accomplished by proselytization or underhand ways but simply as a serendipity by-product of the public discussions.

My heart goes out now to the few Eastern Catholics who are left there.  Along the lines of what Neil has said already, we can all see that they are taking a hammering from their Roman Catholic brethren and from their semi-latinised Eastern brethren and one cannot help but feel sorry for them.  There is not much understanding or sympathy for their position.

Tribute should be paid to Joe Monahan who did a sterling job of moderating our rambunctious section of CAF with great fairness and charity to both Catholics and Orthodox.

Anyway, it is nice to be here on OC.net and I can see that people are settling in and enjoying being able to re-establish friendships and connections.  Many thanks to the Mods here who are making the CAF people so welcome.

Fr Ambrose

Welcome back to the head of the class, Father...

My joy is now full...

Long post just disappeared - probably best destination for it...

You are already becoming famous in Orthodoxy with the CAF debacle...

Steve [Stephen-Paul] Robinson in Phoenix [Our Life in Christ Radio] knew about it last night when I talked with him on the phone...  The waves are being felt and heard widely...

Sure glad to see you here...

Arsenios

Edited to add:

Oh Fiddles!  I see the long post did not disappear, but was posted last page...  So you get a double dose of S.P., fame and appreciation...

A.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 01:20:02 AM by maqhth » Logged

Reader Arsenios

Watch what you do...
You may be the only Bible...
That some will ever read...
stashko
Protokentarchos
*********
Offline Offline

Faith: ИСТОЧНИ ПРАВОСЛАВНИ СРБИН
Jurisdiction: Non Ecumenist Free Serbian Orthodox Church
Posts: 4,998


Wonderworking Sitka Icon


« Reply #347 on: November 16, 2007, 02:15:26 AM »

Hello Father Ambrose ,,,Welcome stashko
Logged

ГОСПОДЕ ГОСПОДЕ ,ПОГЛЕДАЈ СА НЕБА ,ДОЂИ И ПОСЕТИ ТВОЈ ВИНОГРАД ТВОЈА ДЕСНИЦА ПОСАДИЛА АМИН АМИН.
Irish Melkite
Information Mongeror
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Melkite Greek-Catholic
Jurisdiction: Eparchy of Newton
Posts: 986


WWW
« Reply #348 on: November 16, 2007, 03:20:34 AM »

Arsenios,

Could not agree more. That is the most unlikely piece of e-mail that I've read in ages and as an unsolicited piece, it is beyond even consideration.

Many years,

Neil

Mark -

This e-mail fails the sniff test - It stinks to high heaven...  The "RC Priest about to convert to Orthodoxy" smell like bait, so as to gather without effort the material requested, and place it in the hands of who knows what kind of witch-hunt...  The mention of a con-man is itself utterly out of place, and the obsequiousness of the whole thing is dauntingly mal-aeromatic...

I do not trust it for a New York second! 

It is WAY too underhanded and sleazy in its manner of presenting itself...

And of course, I could be wrong!

Arsenios
Logged

"Not only is it unnecessary to adopt the customs of the Latin Rite to manifest one's Catholicism, it is an offense against the unity of the Church."

- Melkite Archbishop Joseph (Tawil), of blessed memory
Irish Melkite
Information Mongeror
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Melkite Greek-Catholic
Jurisdiction: Eparchy of Newton
Posts: 986


WWW
« Reply #349 on: November 16, 2007, 03:35:29 AM »

I'm hoping Neil (Irish Melkite) might remember another forum Fr Ambrose spent some time at. I remember Fr Ambrose mentioning another forum but can't for the life of me remember which one.

Hi John,

Good to see you, my friend. Same memory issue as you, but my excuse is old age - you don't have that one.

Speaking of "old age", I have heard from the venerable old* hieromonk via e-mail. (I haven't been here in a couple days and haven't read beyond your above-quoted post yet, so folks may already be aware of this, for all I know). He's having a bout of computer problems and may be off-line for a few days, but I think he can be enticed to show up here on his return.

Many years,

Neil


*he's got 10 months on me, so I can say that, besides everyone here knows that we ECs are disrespectful trouble-makers anyway  Grin - oh wait, that's you EO guys, not us, right?  Roll Eyes
Logged

"Not only is it unnecessary to adopt the customs of the Latin Rite to manifest one's Catholicism, it is an offense against the unity of the Church."

- Melkite Archbishop Joseph (Tawil), of blessed memory
Irish Melkite
Information Mongeror
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Melkite Greek-Catholic
Jurisdiction: Eparchy of Newton
Posts: 986


WWW
« Reply #350 on: November 16, 2007, 03:41:22 AM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.  

Bless, Father,

Heck, if that was the access issue, you should have said - I remembered that (but, I am younger than you  Grin )

Everyone else,

My earlier comment regarding Father having computer problems still stands.

Regarding the convert threads at CAF, as best I recollect Joe posted something to the effect that appropriate responses to posted reports of persons leaving either the Catholic or Orthodox Church for the other were prayerful wishes for the individual's spiritual journey/discernment/decision. What was forbidden were triumphalism on the one hand or disparagement of the decision on the other. And, I believe he applied that fairly equally on both sides; not sure how else it could have been handled. Given the nature of the venue, it was as neutral a stance as could be asked without banning such announcements.

It seems to me (and Father, Mike, or Joe - who all pretty much trace back to the beginning of CAF with me - might agree or remember differently) that there had been a few such threads over the last 3 years, but most were fairly low key. I believe that one thread, a couple of months ago, sort of broke the mold and produced a fierce flurry of "over-the-top" posts from both sides of the fence. That was what precipitated moderator intervention on the matter - not the topic itself; at least, that was my impression of it.

Many years,

Neil
« Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 03:58:32 AM by Irish Melkite » Logged

"Not only is it unnecessary to adopt the customs of the Latin Rite to manifest one's Catholicism, it is an offense against the unity of the Church."

- Melkite Archbishop Joseph (Tawil), of blessed memory
ialmisry
There's nothing John of Damascus can't answer
Warned
Hypatos
*****************
Offline Offline

Faith: جامعي Arab confesssing the Orthodox Faith of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church
Jurisdiction: Antioch (for now), but my heart belongs to Alexandria
Posts: 37,641



« Reply #351 on: November 16, 2007, 06:54:29 AM »

If they did that, it would be a bit difficult for them to rationalize the banning as a supposed violation of the CAF forum rules.   Roll Eyes

Your point?

A reason is one thing.

An excuse is another.
Logged

Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
                           and both come out of your mouth
ialmisry
There's nothing John of Damascus can't answer
Warned
Hypatos
*****************
Offline Offline

Faith: جامعي Arab confesssing the Orthodox Faith of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church
Jurisdiction: Antioch (for now), but my heart belongs to Alexandria
Posts: 37,641



« Reply #352 on: November 16, 2007, 06:58:56 AM »

Dear Fr. Ambrose,

Venerating the hand that typed so many invaluable words of knowledge and benevolence!

All of my patristic quotes, as well as my dialogue on Pope Vigilius and the 5th Ecumenical Council with mardukm, are safe with me.  police

My sincere thanks to you for your contributions over at CAF. They weren't made in vain.






I missed that. I'd like to see it.  Pope Vigilius always seems interesting (like Zosimos) when talking with someone who is so used to defending Honorius (in itself interesting).

Also, you might do us the favor of posting the purposes of marriage here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13331.0.html
« Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 07:26:27 AM by ialmisry » Logged

Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
                           and both come out of your mouth
ialmisry
There's nothing John of Damascus can't answer
Warned
Hypatos
*****************
Offline Offline

Faith: جامعي Arab confesssing the Orthodox Faith of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church
Jurisdiction: Antioch (for now), but my heart belongs to Alexandria
Posts: 37,641



« Reply #353 on: November 16, 2007, 07:09:41 AM »

I have heard so much about this father Ambrose I am literally excited to hear about him. What is his background? I can't wait to see some more posts of his.

Buckle your seat belt.

Great to see you here Father.
Logged

Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
                           and both come out of your mouth
orthodoxlurker
Supporter & Defender of Fr Ambrose (Irish Hermit) - banned
Warned
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian - NOT a phanariote
Jurisdiction: Serbian Patriarchate under siege
Posts: 1,372


al-Saabir yaraa al-Hurriyah


« Reply #354 on: November 16, 2007, 07:25:41 AM »

Beannaigh, attair Ambrois!

Kissing your right Cross-bearing hand!
Logged

Curse the Pope, for he is the root and cause of these disasters! - St. Nektarios of Aegina

You don't get to circumvent your post moderation by calling out the moderators in your signature. ~Veniamin, Global Moderator
Irish Hermit
Kibernetski Kaludjer
Warned
Merarches
***********
Offline Offline

Posts: 10,991


Holy Father Patrick, pray for us


« Reply #355 on: November 16, 2007, 07:45:13 AM »

Beannaigh, attair Ambrois!

Kissing your right Cross-bearing hand!
Go the Irish!

Do you know that Sofrino (the patriarchal factory for Church goods in Moscow) now manufactures a very nice silver baptismal cross which has the form of an Irish High Cross but the rest, the corpus and the inscriptions, are in Slavonic.  Seems they have created it for the many Russian-Irish babies being born and baptized in Ireland where the influx of Russians, mainly young IT people, has pushed Orthodoxy into 4th place for the various Christian Churches according to Government statistics.  Still minimal though - maybe 20,000.
Logged
brittrossiter
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox Christian
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 64


jasonrossiter
WWW
« Reply #356 on: November 16, 2007, 08:55:02 AM »

Your point?

A reason is one thing.

An excuse is another.

Indeed.  That was my point exactly.   Grin
Logged
prodromos
OC.net guru
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Posts: 1,463

Sydney, Australia


« Reply #357 on: November 16, 2007, 09:24:32 AM »

Greetings to all the brothers and the not so many sisters!

I *finally* discovered my Sign-In name for OC.net -Irish Hermit- and so here I am.
Bless Father.
And here I was being careful not to reveal your secret identity on this forum  Cheesy, though I must confess I had informed one of the mods here many months ago.

Rob, OzGeorge, etc. please forgive the reluctance to venture out into other parts of the forum. Over on CAF we were basically only reading and responding to threads in that one subforum called Eastern Christianity. It had a quality which will be missed and formed a habit which is not easily broken.
Logged
paradoxy
Married Hermit
Member
***
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Serbian Orthodox
Posts: 97


"Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds."


« Reply #358 on: November 16, 2007, 09:26:45 AM »

Fr Ambrose, bless!

It's so great to see you here!

Danica in Serbia
Logged

And when He knew for certain
Only drowning men could see Him
He said "All men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free them"

Leonard Cohen
Robert
"Amazing"
Archon
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 2,442



« Reply #359 on: November 16, 2007, 11:30:40 AM »

Bless Father.
And here I was being careful not to reveal your secret identity on this forum  Cheesy, though I must confess I had informed one of the mods here many months ago.

Rob, OzGeorge, etc. please forgive the reluctance to venture out into other parts of the forum. Over on CAF we were basically only reading and responding to threads in that one subforum called Eastern Christianity. It had a quality which will be missed and formed a habit which is not easily broken.

Understood..  It's good to see you back Wink

Robert
Logged
Tags: Catholic Answers Forum CAF Reunion CAF 
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 »   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.152 seconds with 73 queries.