Wow, a whole dozen posts out of 1400+.
Seems you just want to spout off here and not 'talk' at all if you won't read what we've done here before. And those two tagged lines are but two of many more relating to this topic.
I just read 30 more and cant make sense of any of it. The standard response from the OC bilos down to this after reading a lot of old post:
The see of Rome was special until it went heretical.
And then when it is pointed out to from history that the fathers state that this could not happen, you end up saying:
Well, they were wrong.
This is how a great deal of post end up. But there is no denying that there was an abundant amount of people in the early church thought that the See of Rome would never venture from leading the church in orthodoxy.
It seems clear that for whatever reason, there is a chasim between the OC and RC. When I read your responses to these quotes, I see bizarre post. I am sure when you read mine, you think the same. So there we are.
I think St Maximus is not hard to understand here:
For, from the descent of the Incarnate Word amongst us, all the churches in every part of the world have held the greatest Church alone to be their base and foundation, seeing that, according to the promise of Christ Our Savior, the gates of hell will never prevail against her
, that she has the keys of the orthodox confession and right faith in Him, that she opens the true and exclusive religion to such men as approach with piety, and she shuts up and locks every heretical mouth which speaks against the Most High. (Maximus, Opuscula theologica et polemica, Migne, Patr. Graec. vol. 90)
For he only speaks in vain who thinks he ought to pursuade or entrap persons like myself, and does not satisfy and implore the blessed Pope of the most holy Catholic Church of the Romans
, that is, the Apostolic See, which is from the incarnate of the Son of God Himself, and also all the holy synods, according to the holy canons and definitions has received universal and surpreme dominion, authority, and power
of binding and loosing over all the holy churches of God throughout the whole world
. (Maximus, Letter to Peter, in Mansi x, 692).
Perhaps the OC can stomach these evidences...I cant.