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Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?

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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #900 on: October 29, 2016, 10:47:53 AM »
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Dear ones in Christ: Christ is in our midst!
Every year at Halloween, I have a bit of an internal crisis as pastor. What should I say about Halloween when parishioners ask? There is nothing wrong at the heart of our tradition of cute costumes and kids asking for candy. There is much here that is worthy of a blessing! Indeed the roots of "All Hallow's Eve", or "Hallow'e'en" are from Church tradition. In the West, it is the eve of All Saints' Day.
But sadly much that goes along with our Halloween tradition is far from Orthodox, far from Christian and far from being worthy of a blessing. Just look at the selection of movies in the theaters that are offered each Halloween, for example.
I beg you to avoid the temptation to, in any way, compromise your faith as a Christian during this mercifully brief season of ghosts, ghouls, and sugar overdoses. Our culture suggests that it is "all in good fun", but we ought to reconsider this suggestion for the potential dangers within. Perhaps I seem to be taking this a bit far, but my concern grows each year as I observe the increasingly bad behavior of Christians during this season.
Here are my suggestions (not rules!), and these follow closely to an excellent and encouraging article on the subject by Mr John Sanidopoulos:
1). DO leave your light on and offer treats to those who come to your door. Be hospitable and be a Christian! (I'm particularly fond of Milk Duds and Tootsie Rolls, by the way).
2). DO consider your costume and your children' costumes. There is no rule that says that, in order to enjoy Halloween, you need to dress in a sexually-provocative costume (especially our teenagers, but also our adults) or to appear in a costume that glorifies evil things or overtly macabre themes. Nor do you need to dress up as a Bible character, for that matter. Dress in a way that is worthy of a blessing (a good rule in general). Glorify God with your appearance. For what it's worth, my favorite costume as a child was dressing up as Luke Skywalker. Kind of boring by today's standards, I guess.
3). DO show restraint at parties. This applies to Halloween particularly, but is always a good rule to live by. Know when to say "when". Guard your lips and keep your bodies pure and free of sin.
4). DO avoid, as much as possible, participation in those things that glorify evil, the dark elements of life, pagan or occult themes, and so on. We really have nothing to fear from these things: Christ is risen! But "what fellowship does light have with darkness?," the scriptures ask us. Light illumines the darkness and dispels it. If we desire to be like Christ, then we ought not —even for one night— immerse ourselves in darkness in any way.
I write these things as a concerned pastor who sees much. Our faith and love for Christ ought to inform all aspects of our lives, even (and especially) Halloween. My prayer is that we will make every effort to take captive every thought and action in our lives. That we won't downplay some things for the sake of evil passions. That we will desire less and less the debilitating "candy" of this world and the desire more and more the nourishing wine and bread of the Kingdom of God.
May God bless us this Fall season, as we move toward the Nativity Fast and a deeper contemplation of the gift of the Christ Child. Enjoy Halloween in a holy way!
In Christ,
Fr James

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #901 on: October 29, 2016, 12:13:02 PM »
Although I don't see much of a problem in wearing costumes and stuff, I fear the normalisation of the occult among youth. Even if only a small minority of people who get into these aesthetics will end up in actual witchcraft, I still feel the dark aspects of Halloween are an unnecessary thing to perpetuate.

Not a part of Hallowe'en in this country that I'm aware of. The dangers to young people are the usual with American "partying" -- substance abuse, date rape, joy in the appearance of debauchery, and cynical degrading humor and small talk that often comes close to blasphemy and always ensures an atmosphere of mutual sin.
I went to a Halloween party with my daughters. They painted plastic pumpkins and glued googly eyes on them. Then they got some candy corn. I count myself lucky that we were able to escape before the substance abuse and date rapes took place.

I bet the LSD-fueled trip afterwards from the candy corn was amazing.
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #902 on: October 29, 2016, 01:13:15 PM »
Although I don't see much of a problem in wearing costumes and stuff, I fear the normalisation of the occult among youth. Even if only a small minority of people who get into these aesthetics will end up in actual witchcraft, I still feel the dark aspects of Halloween are an unnecessary thing to perpetuate.

Not a part of Hallowe'en in this country that I'm aware of. The dangers to young people are the usual with American "partying" -- substance abuse, date rape, joy in the appearance of debauchery, and cynical degrading humor and small talk that often comes close to blasphemy and always ensures an atmosphere of mutual sin.
I went to a Halloween party with my daughters. They painted plastic pumpkins and glued googly eyes on them. Then they got some candy corn. I count myself lucky that we were able to escape before the substance abuse and date rapes took place.
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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #903 on: October 29, 2016, 08:34:36 PM »
Another perspective, shared by a friend on FB:
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Dear ones in Christ: Christ is in our midst!
Every year at Halloween, I have a bit of an internal crisis as pastor. What should I say about Halloween when parishioners ask? There is nothing wrong at the heart of our tradition of cute costumes and kids asking for candy. There is much here that is worthy of a blessing! Indeed the roots of "All Hallow's Eve", or "Hallow'e'en" are from Church tradition. In the West, it is the eve of All Saints' Day.
But sadly much that goes along with our Halloween tradition is far from Orthodox, far from Christian and far from being worthy of a blessing. Just look at the selection of movies in the theaters that are offered each Halloween, for example.
I beg you to avoid the temptation to, in any way, compromise your faith as a Christian during this mercifully brief season of ghosts, ghouls, and sugar overdoses. Our culture suggests that it is "all in good fun", but we ought to reconsider this suggestion for the potential dangers within. Perhaps I seem to be taking this a bit far, but my concern grows each year as I observe the increasingly bad behavior of Christians during this season.
Here are my suggestions (not rules!), and these follow closely to an excellent and encouraging article on the subject by Mr John Sanidopoulos:
1). DO leave your light on and offer treats to those who come to your door. Be hospitable and be a Christian! (I'm particularly fond of Milk Duds and Tootsie Rolls, by the way).
2). DO consider your costume and your children' costumes. There is no rule that says that, in order to enjoy Halloween, you need to dress in a sexually-provocative costume (especially our teenagers, but also our adults) or to appear in a costume that glorifies evil things or overtly macabre themes. Nor do you need to dress up as a Bible character, for that matter. Dress in a way that is worthy of a blessing (a good rule in general). Glorify God with your appearance. For what it's worth, my favorite costume as a child was dressing up as Luke Skywalker. Kind of boring by today's standards, I guess.
3). DO show restraint at parties. This applies to Halloween particularly, but is always a good rule to live by. Know when to say "when". Guard your lips and keep your bodies pure and free of sin.
4). DO avoid, as much as possible, participation in those things that glorify evil, the dark elements of life, pagan or occult themes, and so on. We really have nothing to fear from these things: Christ is risen! But "what fellowship does light have with darkness?," the scriptures ask us. Light illumines the darkness and dispels it. If we desire to be like Christ, then we ought not —even for one night— immerse ourselves in darkness in any way.
I write these things as a concerned pastor who sees much. Our faith and love for Christ ought to inform all aspects of our lives, even (and especially) Halloween. My prayer is that we will make every effort to take captive every thought and action in our lives. That we won't downplay some things for the sake of evil passions. That we will desire less and less the debilitating "candy" of this world and the desire more and more the nourishing wine and bread of the Kingdom of God.
May God bless us this Fall season, as we move toward the Nativity Fast and a deeper contemplation of the gift of the Christ Child. Enjoy Halloween in a holy way!
In Christ,
Fr James

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Seems consistent with John Sanidopolous' "10 commandments of Halloween"
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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #904 on: October 29, 2016, 08:42:00 PM »
For what it's worth, my favorite costume as a child was dressing up as Luke Skywalker. Kind of boring by today's standards, I guess.

For every Harley Quinn out there this year there will be at least one Rey. Or probably more, because there will be plenty of adult Reys but not so plenty kiddie Harleys. ;)
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #905 on: October 30, 2016, 04:13:17 PM »
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #906 on: October 30, 2016, 06:40:20 PM »
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #907 on: October 31, 2016, 04:56:45 PM »
Today, I dress in a morally neutral costume. This Halloween, I dress up as Ash Ketchum from Pokemon.
Dressing up in costumes came from the Celtic pagan belief that on Samhain night, ghosts would roam around the living world. So people would dress up as ghosts to disguise themselves as ghosts. Samhain is not a God and he is not worshipped on Halloween, as Jack Chick, other Fundamentalist Protestants, and unfortunately, some well meaning but misinformed Orthodox Christian priests would have you believe. Samhain is actually the name of the festival. Samhain means the "end of summer" in Celtic. Another component of where dressing up came from are the souling, reminder of death, and guising, which all came from the Catholic Church. Dressing up also came from an early Catholic custom of dressing up as demons to poke at and mock death. The roots of modern trick or treating come from city councils in the 1930s in the US as an activity to keep kids out of trouble on Halloween night. Then in the 1950s, is when the term of "trick or treat" became well known because of a Disney Donald Duck cartoon, "Trick-or-treat", you can see that whole cartoon here:https://youtu.be/skdVouumMk4
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #908 on: October 31, 2016, 06:41:33 PM »
The young one didn't bother with a costume, just a pumpkin mask and a glowstick whip. 8) I asked him if he'd go after Crane now that he'd found his head again, and he looked at me with a disgusted expression that reassured me he remembers the legend quite well. ;D

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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #909 on: October 31, 2016, 07:15:34 PM »
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But "what fellowship does light have with darkness?," the scriptures ask us. Light illumines the darkness and dispels it. If we desire to be like Christ, then we ought not —even for one night— immerse ourselves in darkness in any way.

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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #910 on: October 31, 2016, 11:34:05 PM »
For what it's worth, my favorite costume as a child was dressing up as Luke Skywalker. Kind of boring by today's standards, I guess.

For every Harley Quinn out there this year there will be at least one Rey. Or probably more, because there will be plenty of adult Reys but not so plenty kiddie Harleys. ;)

Every Harley Quinn I saw tonight fell into the 10-and-under set.
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Re: Is it OK for an Orthodox Christian to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #911 on: November 01, 2016, 12:39:54 AM »
For what it's worth, my favorite costume as a child was dressing up as Luke Skywalker. Kind of boring by today's standards, I guess.

For every Harley Quinn out there this year there will be at least one Rey. Or probably more, because there will be plenty of adult Reys but not so plenty kiddie Harleys. ;)

Every Harley Quinn I saw tonight fell into the 10-and-under set.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #912 on: November 01, 2016, 12:42:59 AM »
Of all the things in this world for me to be offended by, Halloween just isn’t one of them. When eager, excited children knock on our door in anticipation of kind neighbors giving them candy, I just can’t see the sin in that. I thank God that those children are alive to experience such happiness, for many children never see the light of birth. Parents taking their children trick-or-treating is not evil; parents murdering their children before they are born is. Satan isn’t lurking in the hearts of innocent children wearing costumes and masks; he is lurking in the murderous hearts of abortionists who slaughter children in their mothers’ wombs.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #913 on: November 01, 2016, 01:13:31 AM »
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #914 on: November 01, 2016, 03:37:06 AM »
Of all the things in this world for me to be offended by, Halloween just isn’t one of them. When eager, excited children knock on our door in anticipation of kind neighbors giving them candy, I just can’t see the sin in that. I thank God that those children are alive to experience such happiness, for many children never see the light of birth. Parents taking their children trick-or-treating is not evil; parents murdering their children before they are born is. Satan isn’t lurking in the hearts of innocent children wearing costumes and masks; he is lurking in the murderous hearts of abortionists who slaughter children in their mothers’ wombs.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #916 on: November 01, 2016, 06:03:02 AM »
So we are. Happy half-price candy day! ;D
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #917 on: November 01, 2016, 01:23:56 PM »
"Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch accuses devil of Halloween"

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #918 on: November 01, 2016, 04:37:24 PM »


Man, I went to the wrong houses.  I could use some Twix!
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #919 on: November 01, 2016, 05:29:47 PM »
"Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch accuses devil of Halloween"

Any Arabic speakers out there willing to help us understand what's going on here?

In my very deficient Arabic, it seems to answer the question, "Is there a devil?" I heard nothing about Halloween.  He answered by alluding to the Lord's Prayer: deliver us from the evil one. Christ was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, died and rose to destroy the power of the evil one. 
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #920 on: November 01, 2016, 06:46:31 PM »


This was our pumpkin this year :) Wasn't too difficult to carve.
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #921 on: November 01, 2016, 09:30:21 PM »
Of all the things in this world for me to be offended by, Halloween just isn’t one of them. When eager, excited children knock on our door in anticipation of kind neighbors giving them candy, I just can’t see the sin in that. I thank God that those children are alive to experience such happiness, for many children never see the light of birth. Parents taking their children trick-or-treating is not evil; parents murdering their children before they are born is. Satan isn’t lurking in the hearts of innocent children wearing costumes and masks; he is lurking in the murderous hearts of abortionists who slaughter children in their mothers’ wombs.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #922 on: November 01, 2016, 11:13:55 PM »


This was our pumpkin this year :) Wasn't too difficult to carve.

Nicely done.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #923 on: November 03, 2016, 05:32:16 AM »
Of all the things in this world for me to be offended by, Halloween just isn’t one of them. When eager, excited children knock on our door in anticipation of kind neighbors giving them candy, I just can’t see the sin in that. I thank God that those children are alive to experience such happiness, for many children never see the light of birth. Parents taking their children trick-or-treating is not evil; parents murdering their children before they are born is. Satan isn’t lurking in the hearts of innocent children wearing costumes and masks; he is lurking in the murderous hearts of abortionists who slaughter children in their mothers’ wombs.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #924 on: November 03, 2016, 05:33:14 AM »


This was our pumpkin this year :) Wasn't too difficult to carve.

Nicely done.


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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #925 on: November 03, 2016, 01:32:14 PM »
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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #926 on: November 03, 2016, 04:41:50 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Is it OK for Orthodox Christians to celebrate Halloween?
« Reply #927 on: November 03, 2016, 05:41:36 PM »
Vain existence can never exist, for "unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain." (Psalm 127)

If the faith is unchanged and rock solid, then the gates of Hades never prevailed in the end.