Laying aside any Christian connection with Halloween for the moment, I'm not sure how kids having a bit of fun can be anti-Orthodox; even if they dress up and ghosties and ghoulies and whatever. However, I've lived all my life in countries that don't celebrate Halloween and I have reservations about the holiday from a safety point of view, probably because the thought of my kids accepting sweets from strangers is something completely foreign to me. Over the years, I have seen a growing objection to the holiday, mostly through fundamentalists, mostly through the internet and mostly in the form of complete misinformation based on outright fear. IMO, if anyone feels that celebrating Halloween is a threat to their faith and ultimately their eternal salvation, they probably shouldn't do it. Those who don't fear it should probably continue in freedom.
Is not this the same as saying:'I have seen a growing objection to getting your palm read, mostly through fundementalists, mostly throught he internet and mostly in the form of complete misinformation based on outright fear. IMO, if anyone feels that having your palm read is a threat to their faith and ultimately eternal salvation, they probably should'nt do it. Those who don't fear it should probably continue in freedom'.
I see no difference in slipping-in
whatever subject of behavior or belief or attitude or so on in your statement I want; it has the same affect: "Do what you want to do if you like it".
Very liberal and secular attitude indeed.
I get your point but sadly this 'thinking of yours' does not deliver on sound orthodoxy.
I will agree that many on this forum would side with your open and airy point of view.
That is what we all like. "freedom"
After we get home from liturgy or vespers we want to be what we want to be and decide how we want to live and what is important and what is not. That is why views like your are well received.
It is nothing "wrong" with that. We are pre-occupationists by nature. "freedom"
allows us time to be carried off; be it fantasy or what have you. And who wants to be denied "freedom"?
Orthodox Christians do!
Our fathers taught us to deny ourselves the world and seek the path of rightiouness. That "path" is straight. It is thus 'Orthodox'. Like Paul we are bond servants of Christ. Thus our freedon is IN Christ only.
As I have been saying for years on this forum; Orthodoxy is the life we live full time. It is a life no different from our forefathers.
Orthodox christians are just as pre-occupationistic as the next person but our pre-occupation is with fervent and contrite prayer and living in this world in a way that is obedient to God. We pray that He will place in us His divine grace and will for us, His Holy Church and all mankind.
Orthodox christians are NOT interested in anything that distracts us from our Holy and rightious way of life. Such distractions makes us unhappy. It is not that these distractions are sins but they are DISTRACTIONS.
I hope that is clear.
Who wants to be distracted from something that they enjoy and are hoping to achieve? NO body!
So then halloween may be a fun day of goofy-ness and booh and gooh and that is it. No bad no foul. But how do we make time for it. How do we get the energy to persue the traditions. The answer is that these traditions are important to our lives, our kids lives our heritage...WE are pre-occupied with these practices. We can not appreciate life without them.
I understand that completely!
But this is clearly not the love of Christ and rightious life in Him that is driving us at all. It is this life "OUR" life we love so much. The life we should have left behind at baptism in exchange for a holy life in Christ. Walking and living Christ like in all manners and everything.
It seems that is why so many people have high-jacked this practice this 'holiday' halloween and use it for all kinds of reasons religion, money making, ludeness etc. What else should be done with the thngs of the world? They are to be corrupted just like the world they come from .....this world. This world and all its aspects are corrupted. The lord said :"If the salt looses its flavor how shall it be seasoned? It is to be trampled under foot by men"
Thus is what we have today with halloween.
On the other hand........
Nothing truly holy and of God in the name of Christ could ever be corrupted and abused this way.
I am not convinced that we are better christian or improving our circumstances in a way that brings us or our children closer to God with trick-er-treating and the whole halloween tradition. It has the potential to take away more than it offers to our true and holy lives; especially now since now the enemy has caught hold of it.
Best we discard it.
We can give our kids candy on another day. And instead of costumes of vampires and witches and dead people or superman we can make them into Davids and Solomans, and Arch Angels and Apostles etc. That sounds real good to me.
Ask you kids if they want to be Arch Angel Michael. I hope they are bursting with excitement. If not than we have a work cut out for us.
We have to use every opportunity to protect our spiritual lives and the spiritual lives of our children. That is why the Church is on earth. We should not right off this duty to placate ourselves or our loved ones with things that are contrary to our aim.