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Offline Alton

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african americans
« on: August 20, 2007, 09:27:47 PM »
hello everyone
would you say there are alot or alittle bit of african american orthodox christians out there?

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Re: african americans
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 09:29:42 PM »
I think in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church you'll find a lot.  I'm not sure about the others.

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 09:35:28 PM »
i live in newyork and do not see alot of orthodox here
thanks for your reply

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Re: african americans
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 09:48:47 PM »
There are actually lots of Orthodox in New York, both Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox.  The Ethiopian Church belongs to the Oriental Orthodox family of churches.

The only Ethiopian Church I could find in New York is this:

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/medhanealem/

Edit:  I just found this directory:  http://www.prairienet.org/~dxmoges/dire.htm
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Re: african americans
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 09:54:43 PM »
i'm sorry i mean't african american orthodox in new york

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Re: african americans
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 10:04:23 PM »
It could be I'm not understanding you.  It's late in the day and that happens to me.   :)

Do you mean an actual church called "African American Orthodox?"  Or do you mean an Orthodox Church with African Americans in it?

Actually, depending on your definition of Africa, the Coptic Church is centered in Egypt, which I guess is in Africa:

http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/directory/church.php?search_zip=&dist=50&search_state=NY&submit.x=20&submit.y=8

However, if what you are looking for is an Eastern Orthodox Church, like Russian, Greek or Serbian, there are lots of those in New York:
http://orthodoxyinamerica.org/sr/geo_gate.php

I don't know how many African Americans would be in those churches, though.  Perhaps someone else has more information.

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Re: african americans
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 10:12:09 PM »
There is a parish in NJ that was I believe Protestant that converted to Orthodoxy en masse recently.
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Re: african americans
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 10:22:24 PM »
That is so cool.  I love hearing stories like that.  Is there anything on the internet about it, to which you can link?

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Re: african americans
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 01:48:03 AM »
hello everyone
would you say there are alot or alittle bit of african american orthodox christians out there?
I don't know what "alot and "alittle bit" means.   ???

Coptic and Ethiopian are both ancient African churches with very large presences in America.  The majority of "African Americans" are descendants of slaves from the atlantic slave trade.  There is a movement within this particular African diaspora towards orthodoxy.  I don't know how large it is, but Im sure they could use help.  There are prominent African American community leaders and scholars who have converted to orthodoxy.
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Brotherhood of St Moses the Black
St Mary of Egypt Orthodox Church

There was a movement in the early part of the 20th century that led to the formation of a non-canonical African Orthodox church in america.  There were talks with the OCA about joining them to the greater eastern orthodox body that didnt fully pan out because of the turmoil of the times.  I know of one parish that still exists from this movement, but most ended up joining the African Methodist Episcopal denomination which also formed out of the same movement (Marcus Garvey UNIA, consequently whose birthday just passed a few days ago), and many joined the recently formed Pentecostal movement which besides being a religious movement, was also a racial unity movement.  Many African slave descendants seek orthodoxy to reconnect with their severed roots.  I have a several relatives that are descendants of captured slaves brought to america, when we have larger family gatherings they have told me they know friends that are converts through the work of our coptic brothers, including one who became a priest.

All orthodox in america descended from Afrikans.  The orthodox church is the product of afrikans fulfilling God's commandments!

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Re: african americans
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2007, 09:32:19 AM »
There are multiple Orthodox Christians who are Americans of African descent in my GOA parish.

And, I'm serving in Birmingham, AL---if there's African Americans in this parish, I'm sure there are African Americans in many parishes.
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Re: african americans
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 04:54:54 AM »
Alton, just a warning to watch out for the excommunicated Ethiopian Orthodox bishops in America.
Please ensure you check whether or not they are in communion with Abuna Paulos (aka Abuna Baulos) the Patriarch of Ethiopia.
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