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Offline TristanCross

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Missing The Liturgy
« on: May 08, 2011, 09:51:56 PM »
In Roman Catholicism, it is a grave sin to miss Mass if you are in full communion with their Church. I know that Orthodox Christians do not believe in the same "level of sin" system as Roman Catholics, but is it a sin to miss the Liturgy once you become Orthodox?

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Re: Missing The Liturgy
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 10:05:49 PM »
I am interested to know the answer to this as well. I'm under the impression that the Orthodox understanding is different. I'm not officially Orthodox yet, but I was actually politely reprimanded by my priest for changing my plans to ski with my husband in order to attend church instead. I think he just doesn't want my transition into Orthodoxy to interfere with my marriage. The impression I get so far is that circumstances and intentions play a factor in whether something is considered sinful and that rules aren't always set in stone. But I could be wrong. And of course, not having been baptized yet, I never get to take communion anyway.
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Re: Missing The Liturgy
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 10:27:57 PM »
Bear in mind in understanding this reply, I'm not a theologian, but I'll take a stab at a reply given a layman's knowledge of ecclesial matters.  As you indicate, Orthodoxy does not have the legalistic hierarchy of sins, as does the Roman Catholic Church, although saints and Church Fathers have written about sins that are more grievous than others.  In Orthodoxy, sinning is a state of separating one self from God.  Failure to attend the Divine Liturgy is separating one self from our life in Christ and His Holy Church. I believe there is a canon that essentially excommunicates one for failure to attend the Divine Liturgy for 3 consecutive Sundays, an ancient canon not enforced in our times.  I'm not sure if it's a full excommunication or if it is a prohibition from Holy Communion and attendance at the Liturgy from within the Nave, requiring attendace in the Narthex, for a period of time, like 7 years, if I recall correctly.  Certainly upon repentance (Greek.: "metanioa," a change of mind), through Holy Confession, the spiritual father of the sinner would determin a proper sanction given the circumstances and a remedial path.
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Re: Missing The Liturgy
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 10:39:24 PM »
Bear in mind in understanding this reply, I'm not a theologian, but I'll take a stab at a reply given a layman's knowledge of ecclesial matters.  As you indicate, Orthodoxy does not have the legalistic hierarchy of sins, as does the Roman Catholic Church, although saints and Church Fathers have written about sins that are more grievous than others.  In Orthodoxy, sinning is a state of separating one self from God.  Failure to attend the Divine Liturgy is separating one self from our life in Christ and His Holy Church. I believe there is a canon that essentially excommunicates one for failure to attend the Divine Liturgy for 3 consecutive Sundays, an ancient canon not enforced in our times.  I'm not sure if it's a full excommunication or if it is a prohibition from Holy Communion and attendance at the Liturgy from within the Nave, requiring attendace in the Narthex, for a period of time, like 7 years, if I recall correctly.  Certainly upon repentance (Greek.: "metanioa," a change of mind), through Holy Confession, the spiritual father of the sinner would determin a proper sanction given the circumstances and a remedial path.

As far as I understand it, it's not like "FULL" excommunication, but there would be a lengthy confession.  Most likely this would me no communion until the confession made.
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Re: Missing The Liturgy
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 10:56:21 PM »
That May Be true ,But the Holy Orthodox Church Is realistic As well..They Know there are Paritioners that they see only On Major Feast days ...And Some of them do prepare themselfs to take Holy Communion On those Holy Days,And the church allow them too,  because the Chruch is a hospital and not a prison... :police:
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