Liturgical Greek In Latin Characters (interlinear)

[Seekingthetruth]

Does anyone know of a website or source that has Liturgical Greek translated or broken down into latin characters. For example.  Κύριε ἐλέησον=Kyrie eleison=Kee'ree-ay Ay-lay'ee-son. I'm especially looking for the text of The Divine Liturgy in this format, or a format that is similar. Maybe some of you who are literate in Greek can help me out.

Thanks!

[Anastasios]

Just take the one hour to four hours it would take to learn the Greek alphabet and learn it. It will make you happy you did

[arimethea]

Just make sure you learn from a modern Greek pronunciation and not that stupid German way.

[Αριστοκλής]

Just make sure you learn from a modern Greek pronunciation and not that stupid German way.

Amen!

(Although on my Classical Greek forums those Erasmusians are finally admitting, grudgingly, that they know their way is wrong, but it's easier for them to communicate. My question then is, "With whom"?)

[Seekingthetruth]

Just take the one hour to four hours it would take to learn the Greek alphabet and learn it. It will make you happy you did

I actually plan on learning Greek, but I'm looking for a quick reference so I can better understand parts of the liturgy and sing the Greek parts, as the liturgy at the parish I am attending conducts service in about 40% Greek and 60% English. I love ancient languages, so Greek defiantly is something I want to learn, along with Hebrew and Aramaic.

[ytterbiumanalyst]

I actually plan on learning Greek, but I'm looking for a quick reference so I can better understand parts of the liturgy and sing the Greek parts, as the liturgy at the parish I am attending conducts service in about 40% Greek and 60% English. I love ancient languages, so Greek defiantly is something I want to learn, along with Hebrew and Aramaic.

Here's a quick reference for the letters:
symbol, name, English equivalent
α alpha a
β beta b
γ gamma g
δ delta d
ε epsilon e
ζ zeta z
η eta e
θ theta th
ι iota i
κ kappa k
λ lambda l
μ mu m
ν nu n
ξ xi x
ο omicron o
π pi p
ρ rho r
ς sigma (final) s
σ sigma (initial and middle) s
τ tau t
υ upsilon u
φ phi f
χ chi ch
ψ psi ps
ω omega o

[serb1389]

A lot of liturgy books come with the english phonetics already printed. 

I know Holy Cross puts out a liturgy book that has everything in english phonetics...

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for though...

There are other Liturgy books that have even more than the phonetics, like little stress marks, and etc. 

What exactly are you looking for? 

[Seekingthetruth]

A lot of liturgy books come with the english phonetics already printed. 

I know Holy Cross puts out a liturgy book that has everything in english phonetics...

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for though...

There are other Liturgy books that have even more than the phonetics, like little stress marks, and etc. 

What exactly are you looking for? 

That book by Holy Cross would be wonderful! Would I find it here? http://store.holycrossbookstore.com/lisebo.html

[serb1389]

Yup...if you want to see a copy go to your nearest Greek church, they probobly have a copy. 

I hope it works out for you! 

Its a good book to have even if it doesn't....

You know...now that I think about it I might be wrong...I tend to get confused sometimes. 

Please check out the book before you buy it.  I would hate for you to spend your money on my mistake....sorry if I steered you wrong. 

[EofK]

http://www.teknia.com/  This is the textbook I used in my Greek classes in college.  The website has a free download with flashcards and pronunciation tips (with, I believe, .wav files so you can hear the vocabulary).  The textbook is a little pricey, but you can usually find one in used bookstores, especially Christian used bookstores.  Don't let the book intimidate you; I took a formal Greek class, but I also taught myself part of the textbook when I took a year away from Greek.  If you're serious about learning the language, it's best to get a tutor or take a class.  I'm no expert in the language, by any means, but I loved learning the basics.  Wish I had also taken a Modern Greek class to see the progression from 1st century to today. 

http://greek-language.com/alphabet/  This page has the alphabet, transliteration, and a pronunciation guide.

[FrChris]

As I had feared, the teknia site has this as a "pronunciation guide":

1. A diphthong consists of two vowels that produce but one sound. The second vowel is always an i or an u. They are pronounced as follows. [The diphthong wu is used in Classical Greek, but occurs in the New Testament only in the name MwushV where there is always a diaeresis indicating that it is not a diphthong.]

ai as in aisle  ai[rw 
ei as in eight  eij 
oi as in oil  oijkiva 
au as in sauerkraut  aujtovV 
ou as in soup  oujdev 
ui as in suite  uiJovV 
eu, hu as in feud  eujquvV or hu[xanen. Some suggest that the pronunciation of hu is the same as saying "hey you" if you run the words together. 

My suggestion: seek out a Greek for pronunciation advice!

I remember once at Holy Cross, we had a bunch of visitors on campus who were attending a conference. They tried to recite the Greek portions of Vespers in their "Erasmian" Greek pronunciation. I knew they we really trying to be nice, but their attempts were actually painful to the ears, and eventually the visitors also were highly embarassed when they found out that what they had spent their life learning was incorrect.

[Αριστοκλής]

As I had feared, the teknia site has this as a "pronunciation guide":

My suggestion: seek out a Greek for pronunciation advice!

I remember once at Holy Cross, we had a bunch of visitors on campus who were attending a conference. They tried to recite the Greek portions of Vespers in their "Erasmian" Greek pronunciation. I knew they we really trying to be nice, but their attempts were actually painful to the ears, and eventually the visitors also were highly embarassed when they found out that what they had spent their life learning was incorrect.

Incredibly, the Greek tutorial over at monachos also follows "Erasmusian"- I refuse to call it Greek. The site owner is a translator on the OSB-OT project, makes one wonder.

[EofK]

As I had feared, the teknia site has this as a "pronunciation guide":

My suggestion: seek out a Greek for pronunciation advice!

Very true, it isn't great for pronunciation.  But then, when I was learning it we didn't do any speaking or listening exercises, so pronunciation wasn't a concern to me.  Definitely, track down a Greek for pronunciation.

[Fr. George]

Oh, Lord have mercy.  The pronunciation guide that FrChris posted (which he was disgusted with).... ewwwwwww.

Ai - short e (like eh)
Ei, Oi - long e (like tree)
ou - just like it looks (through, or threw)

Eu - Either "ef" or "ev", depending on context.
Au - Either "af" (like the word off) or "av", depending on context.

Remember, an "a" is never pronounced like "tray", but rather as a shortened version of the famous Boston "a" - (you know, Park the Car in Harvard Yard - "ah" sound).

{I've now flown into "people can't pronounce Greek" anger mode, which inevitably follows every encounter with Erasmus' monstrosity.}

[Apostolos]

Oh, Lord have mercy.  The pronunciation guide that FrChris posted (which he was disgusted with).... ewwwwwww.

Ai - short e (like eh)
Ei, Oi - long e (like tree)
ou - just like it looks (through, or threw)

Eu - Either "ef" or "ev", depending on context*
Au - Either "af" (like the word off) or "av", depending on context.*

Remember, an "a" is never pronounced like "tray", but rather as a shortened version of the famous Boston "a" - (you know, Park the Car in Harvard Yard - "ah" sound).

{I've now flown into "people can't pronounce Greek" anger mode, which inevitably follows every encounter with Erasmus' monstrosity.}

*Eu, Au-->ef, af before a consonant, ev, av before a vowel
examples:
Εύανδρος-->Evandros=Good, noble man.
Ευφημισμός-->Ef-fimismos=Euphemism

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