So I guess that hatred and murder are the same thing?
Yes, that's what I've been saying.
Thinking and doing have the exact same consequences? I don't think so.
Spiritually, yes, eternally, yes.
This is not the Orthodox view. I already made my point.
Ummm, we're back to pontificating again.
You can't tell me that having hateful thoughts (which I will repeat again is sinful and wrong) and actually killing someone are the same thing and create the same result.
Same result? I said it's the same sin, one is no worse than the other...they may have different temporal consequences, but spiritually speaking, they are one and the same.
I don't hardly think so. According to the same logic, I could give alms with my heart but not actually do it, or I could show love with my heart but not actually manifest it.
Yes, you can love your neighbour without giving alms...and by the same token you can give alms and yet hate your neighbour. The former is virtue, the latter is sin (surely Christ had enough stories about the pharisees to make this clear). And while most who truly love their neighbour in there heart will manifest it in their deeds, I can think of a few cases where one may truly love their neighbour in their heart and yet not be able to manifest it in deed.
This sounds like protestantism/gnosticism to me. The spirit is good, the flesh is evil; it only matters what is done in your heart, not physically.
Come again? I was just arguing that sex, even outside of marriage, is not inherently bad...it is the corruption of the heart through lust that is inherently evil...certainly not spirit good, matter evil gnosticism. If you're going try to pin an ancient heresy on me for this particular case why not try docetism; it's not a perfect fit, but works much better than gnosticism.
Sorry GIC, your views are outside of the church.
Well, if you have to enter into a theological argument for a position outside of the Church, Jesus Christ and St. John the Theologian are pretty good allies to have.