I once questioned why you, a self-described atheist, would choose to join a Christian forum, when it looks as if you have no intention of returning to Christianity. BUT, I've never thought you should be banned. Perhaps more moderated than the Christians , but not banned.
Tow the party line or face censorship, you don't want to be called treasonous but you attack the most fundamental values of this republic and are disturbed by the freedom of speech?
GreekisChristian, on the other hand, is extremely hostile, antagonistic, and downright disrespectful to every single one of you who profess Christianity. He is argumentative for no other reason than because he dislikes Christians.
Ummm, just for the record I am under the Omophorion of His Eminence Metropolitan Gerasimos of San Francisco who is a member of the Synod of the Most Holy and Great Church of Christ. Furthermore, I have never spoken anything but praise in reference to His Eminence my Metropolitan and His All Holiness the Oecumenical Patriarch both of whom I hold in the highest esteem. I would assume where I to 'dislike Christians', I would hold their leaders in contempt; rather, I have submitted unto them and have consistently argued for the upholding of their canonical and imperial rights. Furthermore, I have consistently spoken well of my various professors at Holy Cross, who are academic leaders in the Orthodox Community in the United States, with perhaps one exception; I have even found myself strongly advocating their causes, opposed though they may be on this fourm. I could go on to give many more Christians towards whom I am not 'downright disrespectful' and most certainly dont dislike, infact many of whom I quite like.
It would seem that you have confused my dislike of fundamentalism and hypocrisy with a dislike of Christianity; and, in a way, I can see how this would happen in the world of 'internet orthodoxy', since there the three are often confused; however, you may (or may not) be surprised to learn that I have rarely encountered substantial disagreement, much less an exchange of hostility, in the real world. These things tend to be restricted to the internet where the extremes (and in the case of Orthodoxy, particularly the extreme right) tend to manifest themselves.
So, as we can see, your accusations are simply untrue; it's somewhat ironic that you launch an ad hominem attack (against which is one of the few censorship rules on this board) against me in a post where you call for increased censorship.
He has even said that he finds most people as worthless.
General critique of the homo sapien species, which if you had read my reasons you would see also includes myself; there's really no reason to take it personally.
It is imperative that we, at least occasionally, throw away all our preconceptions and dogmas to look at matters as objectively as humanly possible. To fear this is to fear truth.
He talks about other religions as being less than swine and dogs, and on more than one occasion has insinuated that Muslims should be exterminated.
Merely insinuated? I did no such thing.
I have long openly stated that Islam, and by extension all Mohammedans, should be exterminated. Though I have also openly stated that the best possible manner in which this could occur would be the conversion of the entire Mohammedan race to Christianity, by which the Mohammedan would be destroyed in Holy Baptism through which the new man is born. And while I thank you for giving me credit for formulating these ideas, I fear I cannot take credit lest I be a plagiarist: our blessed and sainted Emperors and Patriarchs have said these things long before I.
And just for the record, I'm not necessarily calling for the banning of anyone, just more moderation. And the reason I'm calling for this is quite simple. If you were to walk into a building that had a sign saying Grocery Store and instead of groceries they were selling insurance, you would understandibly be confused. Likewise, a visitor to an Orthodox Christianity forum might expect to encounter Christians vigorously debating certain issues, but will understandably find it confusing to find members who are not only NOT Christians, but are openly hostile to Christians. And not only would they find that confusing, they would wonder why it is allowed to continue day after day.
It would seem to me that your standards for 'Orthodox' are a bit skewed. In my arguments against the Mohammedans I have simply resurrected the arguments of the 'Byzantines', surely they can be regarded as at least nominally 'Orthodox'? In regard to my approaching the dogmas and praxis of the Church from the objective 'secular' perspective of historical theology, I am simply applying techniques taught to me by Orthodox Professors at an Orthodox Seminary, in some classes the roles of imperial politics and pragmatism in the evolution of Church doctrine were discussed at length.
I don't know what other topics you have taken issue with, but in most cases I'm willing to venture that my ideas are not somehow 'fundamentally opposed' to Orthodoxy, but rather are simply other ideas expressed within the Orthodox Church. (Perhaps ideas one does not wish to hear, but valid ideas nonetheless.)
OC.net is a safe haven for not only those who are Christians, but those who are sincerely seeking the Truth (or who are simply curious). One expects to encounter hostility and mockery in the 'real' world (and indeed, are asked to suffer for their beliefs), but not on a forum like this. And I submit that just because a person is a Christian does not mean they're supposed to accept constant bullying on a Christian forum. I don't enjoy being a pot-stirer, and I know that I'll be criticized for saying these things. I certainly don't want to tell our dear moderators how to do their jobs, but I think it's time that a little more action is considered.
In the past we have always welcomed debate from outside, I know several members who have encouraged non-Orthodox and even non-Christians to come here, present their arguments, and hash them out in debate. In the past, at least, this board has been used to facilitate the exchange of ideas more than to create warm fuzzy feelings inside people. However, you may find some allies here who want to change this.